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The Brexit Party

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Mr Badger, May 8, 2019.

  1. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

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    NO it hasn't been explained. Its been "soundbited", and when any level of challenge is given it fails.

    You cannot in good faith say a few lines on the back of a fag packet is understood. Its a wish list.
     
  2. Freakbro

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    Yea, let's listen again into how much work the BXP candidate has put in to understand and back up his soundbites



    :D:D:D

    You really do have to be a complete moron to be suckered in by this lot :p
     
  3. thenewoc

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    No it's a set of pledges or guiding principles, firstly to deliver democracy, the 2016 referendum, the 2017 GE manifestos and now the WTO pledge from The Brexit Party. It starts with the public delivering a strong mandate that can be provided by the support shown in this EU election.
     
  4. Tony Edwards

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    If you have so much concern for democracy why are you not demanding another referendum to answer that question? If as it stands you all think that the vast majority of the UK still want brexit why are you so frightened at the thought?
     
  5. thenewoc

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    Apart from being rude you've also snipped part of what I actually said, so I provide it in full below...

     
  6. Cern

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    "WTO pledge"

    Is a suicide pact a pledge then? Because essentially this is what this is, from a national economic and social point of view.

    So let's ask AGAIN, how will leaving the EU with No Deal and attempting to conduct trade for the foreseeable future on WTO terms benefit the UK economically and socially?
     
  7. thenewoc

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    Now you're exhibiting hysteria again, no one is advocating suicide.
     
  8. thenewoc

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    Because they lied to us...

     
  9. Freakbro

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    They certainly did!

    David Davis "There are no downsides to Brexit only upsides"

    Daniel Hannan "No-one is talking about leaving the Single Market"

    Nigel Farage "We should be like the Norway solution"

     
  10. VincentHanna

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    Can you stop spamming the same video?
     
  11. Cern

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    Just answer the question:

    How will leaving the EU with No Deal and attempting to conduct trade for the foreseeable future on WTO terms benefit the UK economically and socially?
     
  12. Tony Edwards

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    How is that even an answer to why are you so scared of another referendum? It really is like a scene from Southpark with you guys. I really expect to start hearing you all saying "Rabble, rabble" soon.
     
  13. thenewoc

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    Not a lie, it just hasn't been possible with TM / Tory negotiations that have been botched and further frustrated by Labour. Staying in the single market would have been one option among others if the overall package was satisfactory but what the negotiators have achieved is the option of a new EU treaty which binds us to many of the same things that apply now so is not really leaving the EU. As the EU are not willing to negotiate further on the WA the remaining option to leave the EU is to leave on WTO.
     
  14. Freakbro

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    Yes it was

    and I didn't quote the rest of your post as it's the usual nonsense word salad where you contradict yourself from a hundred of your other posts where you just say any old **** to answer what is in front of you, irrespective of what you have said before.
     
  15. thenewoc

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    I've explained that already, in several posts, use the forum search facility to read all of what I've posted, this is one such recent post...

    It means the UK is a free democracy once again first and foremost. A vote for The Brexit Party this Thursday means you're sending the loudest and clearest message to UK Parliament that you as a voter want to be heard and want democracy in the UK to be upheld.

    The bigger the vote is this Thursday for The Brexit Party the stronger the mandate is that people want Brexit to be delivered as pledged on WTO terms, to begin with to achieve us leaving the EU as promised and what should already have occurred on 29th March. The stronger this mandate is helps The Brexit Party to apply political pressure to be included in the UK's Brexit negotiating team. The current negotiations haven't worked because you can't say you're prepared to leave on WTO and then not follow through because those you're negotiating with having called your bluff will know they don't need to offer anything because you won't go through with leaving on WTO. Leaving on WTO will mean not giving away access to our market unless we're going to get fair access to theirs without FoM. Therefore leaving on WTO is the beginning of a new negotiation, one which requires all parts of a future relationship to be on the table before agreeing to it. In the meantime parts of our import market will be up for grabs by others outside the EU who want access to our market in return for fair access to theirs. We will transition to a global trade nation with better control of our borders and immigration.
     
  16. thenewoc

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    No one is forcing you to participate in a thread about The Brexit Party since you obviously hold strong views of not supporting a party campaigning to uphold democracy and deliver on the promises of the 2016 referendum and the 2017 GE.
     
  17. Freakbro

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    He can't answer it because he doesn't understand what it entails
     
  18. Freakbro

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    Nope, no-one is forcing me to, it is a cross I bear to put up with your incessant **** because evil only flourishes when good men do nothing.
     
  19. Murphy

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    No, the point is you're refusing to engage with people and acting in bad faith, speakers corner is meant to be for serious discussions (afaik), not just for people to regurgitate what they've read on twitter and constantly repeat themselves while ignoring any and all attempts at further discussion.
    ^^Case in point^^

    How about actually trying to answer all the questions that have been raised from that soliloquy?
     
  20. thenewoc

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    So leaving the EU is now evil is it, do explain?