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The Brexit Party

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Mr Badger, May 8, 2019.

  1. thenewoc

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    This isn't the Brexit thread though is it, it's The Brexit Party thread so what I've explained is if you support leaving the EU then you really only have one serious choice and that's The Brexit Party. Whatever share of the vote they get that is what they will work with to campaign on the basis of the pledges they've made. I don't think it can be any clearer than that.
     
  2. thenewoc

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    What is the question you feel I haven't answered then?
     
  3. JRS

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    That's nice. Now, how about an answer to the question that was asked?

    A no deal exit is not the policy of the Tories (May's deal, nominally), Labour (a deal that isn't May's), the Greens, Lib Dems, Plaid Cymru, Change UK or the SNP (confirmatory ref or revoke). So would you agree that if the BP doesn't get more votes and seats than those parties combined then the will of the people cannot really be for no deal?
     
  4. robfosters

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    Spoke to a family member today who voted for the brexit party on the entire basis that Nige likes a pint :D
     
  5. GordyR

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    Do they also call Juncker a raging alcoholic by any chance?
     
  6. JRS

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    Well, I can certainly see how that could be a perfectly acceptable reason to seriously vote for someone...
     
  7. robfosters

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    If I asked them what they thought of Juncker, they’d probably say he was a good centre back for Germany or something.
     
  8. JRS

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    Oh good, at least they were well informed about the issues then.
     
  9. Murphy

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    And the point is directly related to the Brexit party because they're one of the two parties advocating for leaving without a WA.

    It's simple, the question you responded to was this...
    Now, show me where in the that quote the word "eurosceptic" appears....I'll wait here, no? I thought not as it's not there.

    If it's not there why did you respond by saying....
    Now obviously people can make mistakes and sometimes it takes a bit of explaining before they realise, however even after pointing it out that what you originally responded to was talking about the BP's being one of the parties advocating to 'leave with no deal' and that current polling has it at 65% rejecting the 'no deal' party/parties, after having that pointed out to you on multiple occasions you still insist on saying the divide is between eurosceptic and non eurosceptic seats.
     
  10. chroniclard

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    Its Brexit Party(and lolKIP) vs everyone else, nobody else is touting no deal. Anything less than 50% of the seats is a rejection for no deal.
     
  11. thenewoc

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    I do believe it is between eurosceptic vs non eurosceptic at this point since coalitions are sometimes formed and I explained that currently the polling is quite evenly split.
     
  12. thenewoc

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    In your opinion that's as maybe but it could also represent the biggest proportion of votes for any one particular version of Brexit, e.g. no particular version of indicative votes in the HoC came out with a clear majority either. You're also assuming no one in the conservatives is for 'no deal' when actually we don't know how many conservative MEP's may have a similar view to the ERG.
     
  13. chroniclard

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    Either way there is not enough support for no deal to shaft half the country against its will.
     
  14. thenewoc

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    In your opinion of course but we'll have to see what the outcome of the election is. Either way the more eurosceptic MEP's there are the less likely we are to agree to greater EU integration or legislation opposite to the goal of leaving.
     
  15. chroniclard

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    Well no, that's fact not opinion. Greater integration was never on the cards.
     
  16. thenewoc

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    I think it naturally would be if we somehow ended up remaining as that has been the general direction over the past 46 years of our membership.
     
  17. Nasher

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    Some Europeans I know do. That's where I first heard about it. It's probably true tbh :D
     
  18. robgmun

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    Juncker is not an raging alcoholic, what a dangerous slur, what on earth gave you that silly idea...

    :D

    On the plus side he looks like fun drunk :D
     
  19. chroniclard

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    Sounds good then, when remainer MEP's get the majority of the seats that is where we will be heading.
     
  20. Nasher

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    That's fine then. As long as there is a FUN drunk in charge of the EU we're all safe :p

    At least he only slaps people and doesn't headbutt them.