'lo all! I'm struggling to find a portable music player that'll play a certain type of Ogg Vorbis file. "But loads of players these days play .oggs, you numpty!" I hear you chorus. Not so, it appears, as I've had to return an otherwise perfectly decent iAudio M5L as it doesn't play most of the .oggs in my collection. There's a reason but it's brain-crimpingly technical, so I won't go into it here. Suffice to say that my .oggs perfectly conform to the Ogg Vorbis standards and play in Winamp, Foobar, XMMS, and even in Mortplayer on my MDA Compact phone thingy - all without issue. It's just portable audio devices that won't play them [or play them really badly]. So the challenge is this: Can your portable music device play the following example file? http://www.simisker.com/floor-0-example-libvorbis10beta4_cut.ogg If any of you try this, could you please post your results - whether success or failure - and mention which player you used. Ta! Note to Dons: I believe the provision of this 30-sec snippet of music comes under the description of 'fair use'; I couldn't find anything in the FAQ related to the posting of such files, though.