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... Vauxhall Corsa 1.2 SXi :(

I sighed as I was handed the keys and pointed to the 06 plate 1.2 Twinport on the forecourt. They have de-fleeted the Clio and will no longer be stocking Renaults. Ah well, at least I dont have to walk...

One press of the open button on the keyfob unlocks the drivers door only. This is alright if you are the only person to use the car but if you give lifts to people regularly, having to double-press the button gets annoying FAST.

Getting in, the first thing that struck me was just how cheap the whole interior is. Ridiculously cheap plastic interior that makes the Clio (and even the Ka!!) seem like a nice place to be. The steering wheel is covered in a plastic that you wouldnt see fit to use on a cheapo playstation wheel let alone a proper car. It is 40 miles old and already the fake stitching on the wheel is starting to pull apart. All of the controls are in accessible places and in typical Vauxhall style the headlight controls cant be found on the stalks, they are on the panel to the right. No biggie, but having to move so far to turn the lights on is a little strange. I dont know who they designed the seats for either because they are dire. Lumbar support is too low making it an irritation rather than a back-saving addition. The seat is too high, too, and it isnt height adjustable. The steering column cannot be adjusted either which is a huge PITA for anyone who has to have the seat as far back as it will physically go (like me, and anyone else 6ft or taller). All in all, a dire place to be compared to just about every other car I have ever been in ever. Only thing that instantly springs to mind as being worse was an early Punto I was forced to drive a while back. It could be SO much better with a little more thought.

For what it is, there is remarkably little kit too - the Clio had Air Con, trip computer, automatic wipers/lights etc - none of which can be found on the Corsa. The CD player is godawful too and the sound quality is pretty diabolical - another area where the Clio won hands-down.

Turning the key and the fresh off the production line engine splutters into life second time of asking. Quiet idle, next to no engine noise in the cabin at idle either which is alright.

Clutch is the lightest clutch I have EVER used. It is so light it is daft - there is no feel whatsoever regarding exactly where the bite is (through the pedal) and not enough resistance to even rest your foot against it between gear changes. The Clio had a very heavy clutch and I preferred that to this mega-light clutch in all honesty. The Audi A3 / Golf has a much better balance of the clutch weight in my opinion.

Putting it into first, the gearbox is much better than the Clio and it isnt even run in yet. Every selection is a firm "hit" and there is no vagueness about it - which is nice when you are on some back lanes where you have no time to think about what the gearbox is doing.

Creep forward out of the forecourt and onto the busy dual carriageway and put my foot down. I see the tachometer needle rising but I am hardly moving. Ah, yes. I am piloting a weedy 1.2 Corsa. This engine unit has NO power and even less torque. Caning the hell out of it gets you to 60 in what feels like forever (compared to the Clio!!) but the Clio ran out of puff at 80mph pretty much. This doesnt and so as a result belting it along some familiar roads resulted in quite a lot higher speeds (with significantly less fuel economy!) than the Clio. The limiter is reached pretty quickly - it doesnt mind revving and the fuel-cut has caught me out once or twice. No doubt given time I will adjust to it though.

I havnt had occasion to put it down some testing roads to see how it rates handling wise at speed but the steering is LIGHT - there is some serious assistance given to the driver here and it is too easy to flick it far harder than you intended around a small roundabout, for example. I like to have feedback through the wheel and there just isnt enough there. Coupled with the plasticness of the wheel and it just feels like a cheap toy car.

In all honesty, I cant see why anyone could get into one of these and think "Yes, I want this" given the competition. I really, really cant - it is that bad.

By all means, test drive one - but if you want to keep a straight face, make sure it is the first test drive you do ;)

EDIT:

Good grief! I just had a nosey on the Vauxhall website - they want just shy of ELEVEN THOUSAND POUNDS for this heap of plastic junk?

The Clio looks positively good value for money compared to that!! :Eek:
 
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Cheers for the early review.

My neighbours today picked up their new 06 Citroen C1 1.0. Doesnt seem like a bad little car. Very roomy inside. Not sure it goes though....
 
The car has 40 miles on the clock yet you floor it and bounce off the rev limiter twice? Was the engine cold at the time too?

Give it time to loosen up!

IMO it's handy to have the switches for the headlights to the right - they're right there and easy to find without cluttering the stalks

The clutch is light but it has plenty of feel - you can feel the biting point

The steering is rather light though

You've only just got the car - you should learn to appreciate it and to feel and respect the car.

All IMO of course
 
ajgoodfellow said:
The car has 40 miles on the clock yet you floor it and bounce off the rev limiter twice? Was the engine cold at the time too?

Give it time to loosen up!

IMO it's handy to have the switches for the headlights to the right - they're right there and easy to find without cluttering the stalks

The clutch is light but it has plenty of feel - you can feel the biting point

The steering is rather light though

You've only just got the car - you should learn to appreciate it and to feel and respect the car.

All IMO of course

I am going to have use of it for 2 days. I dont have time, money or the inclination to go and put a couple of thousand miles on the clock just so I can decide it is poor high up the revs. It is going to have a tough couple of hundred miles, but it is a courtesy car - it is going to be abused like a cheap ho for the next 6 months.

I have been a passenger in older 1.2 SXis before and they had the same amount of "go". I didnt hammer it from cold, I have yet to hammer it at all and I hit the rev limiter twice because I was mistakenly waiting for there to be some power to indicate it was doing something :p I was paying attention to the road rather than the tachometer!

As for appreciating it - if someone took a dump on your driveway, would you take the time to appreciate / respect that?

Its not a Ferrari, its a godawful Corsa!
 
ajgoodfellow said:
The car has 40 miles on the clock yet you floor it and bounce off the rev limiter twice? Was the engine cold at the time too?

Give it time to loosen up!

IMO it's handy to have the switches for the headlights to the right - they're right there and easy to find without cluttering the stalks

The clutch is light but it has plenty of feel - you can feel the biting point

The steering is rather light though

You've only just got the car - you should learn to appreciate it and to feel and respect the car.

All IMO of course


take it you drive one? lol

my ex had one for a courtesy. i know what you mean about the seats and the driving possition. interior i found not to be that bad.. but wouldnt call it nice.. but i am coming from a n-reg ibiza lol

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Unlucky dude. Least you've only got it for 2 days :)

Know what you get next?

Fingers crossed it aint a Corsa ;)
 
Gilly said:
Unlucky dude. Least you've only got it for 2 days :)

Know what you get next?

Fingers crossed it aint a Corsa ;)

Well, Eventually I get the Ka back :( - quite how it isnt a write-off I dont know. Maybe the insurance comany like to be bummed with huge repair bills. From the sounds of it, it needed a new bumper, boot lid and a partial respray of something or other. £££s!

Should I put this into a hedge / wall / oncoming traffic I will get.... another Corsa.

When I grumbled about the fact I had been given the keys to one of Vauxhall's finest (hur) the dude there said that Renault werent an attractive deal any more and so they switched to Vauxhall. Bit of a shame really :(
 
ajgoodfellow said:
The car has 40 miles on the clock yet you floor it and bounce off the rev limiter twice? Was the engine cold at the time too?

Give it time to loosen up!

IMO it's handy to have the switches for the headlights to the right - they're right there and easy to find without cluttering the stalks

The clutch is light but it has plenty of feel - you can feel the biting point

The steering is rather light though

You've only just got the car - you should learn to appreciate it and to feel and respect the car.

All IMO of course

Who cares? Its a hire car.
 
:(

Ive been pretty lucky and had some decent hire cars, I got a Corsa once to drive to Scotland in, last minute, last car avaliable 8pm the night before I was meant to go. :(

It was painful. Then there was the Accident repair place Fiesta which was gutless, and was brand new that morning 06 with 1 mile on the clock. I returned it a couple of days later with 1500k on the clock, and I presume knackered internals! Dropping the gears at speed is fun :D
 
Oblivious said:
Then there was the Accident repair place Fiesta which was gutless, and was brand new that morning 06 with 1 mile on the clock. I returned it a couple of days later with 1500k on the clock, and I presume knackered internals! Dropping the gears at speed is fun :D

Where did you go? Mars?
 
I had my Punto from an accident repair centre when the Clio was in.

It was awful. It had a tape player and that was it.

Keep-fit windows. No ABS. Oh, it had power steering. Enough so that I had no clue what was going on. And I found the clutch as light as the Corsa's sounds.

I've actually no idea why someone would buy one. It has no redeeming features.
 
One thing I find when driving cars like Corsas is that I end up stamping on the clutch. I just expect it to be a little bit harder but no :(

Then when I get back in my normal car, I feel like a wimp. The clutch seems so strong.
 
Gilly said:
I had my Punto from an accident repair centre when the Clio was in.

It was awful. It had a tape player and that was it.

Keep-fit windows. No ABS. Oh, it had power steering. Enough so that I had no clue what was going on. And I found the clutch as light as the Corsa's sounds.

I've actually no idea why someone would buy one. It has no redeeming features.

Memories of the Punto I drove have come flooding back. It was so bad I had supressed them in the dark recesses of my mind.

Never in all my days have I seen so many bits fall off a car in such a short period of time. Bearing in mind my Dad had a Montego for a painful amount of time (about a month, I think), this is no mean feat.

Didnt go, didnt stop, didnt turn, seating position required Yoga classes, about on par for feel and response.

If they had offered me a Punto, I really do think I would have refused it and asked for something else if it was possible.
 
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