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The Conservative Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Gigabit, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. Destination

    Capodecina

    Joined: May 31, 2009

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    Like their porn registration gubbins.
    Can't wait for that info to leak, the amount of blackmail that'll occur of the back of someone knowing your porn registration history is baffling.
     
  2. Uther

    Sgarrista

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    If this is how they are going to sort the Irish border the lads will be digging up their Armalites as we speak.
     
  3. Gigabit

    Mobster

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    Does Dolph comment on issues with the Tory Party?
     
  4. Uther

    Sgarrista

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    'Yeah but Corbyn' etc etc
    The Tories would be farcical if they weren't as dangerous to this country as they currently are.
     
  5. Gigabit

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    The leak, did he comment on that?
     
  6. Gigabit

    Mobster

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    But he didn't directly respond.
     
  7. Gigabit

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    I don't know I just find it convenient how he is so quick to rush to attacking Labour but is distinctly slow about the Tories.
     
  8. Rroff

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    I don't tend to be particularly active in this thread either lately - there are few people under any illusions when it comes to the Tories same as I don't really bother posting in the Trump thread every time he does something bad now (though that thread has got a bit silly).
     
  9. RDM

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    He dislikes Labour more than the Conservatives? It isn't like the Labour party supporters are overly quick at pointing out their flaws. The conservatives are awful, but I don't hold the same antipathy for them as I do the current Labour leadership so I am less interested in what they are doing wrong.

    That said, the app thing is hilariously appalling.
     
  10. Dolph

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    The key difference is that there are a lot less people making unjustified positive noises, supporting crazy positions or excusing all sorts of behaviour when it comes to the Tories compared to Labour.

    I'm not a fan, supporter or defender of the current Tory party or many of the policies, just because I'm also not a fan of the current labour party or many of their policies. Too many people assume you have to be one or the other.

    The app thing is either carelessness, shoddy work or incompetence in either the developers or the people who signed off the requirements and work. It shouldnt happen anywhere, and is especially unnecessary given how many companies provide generic event apps that don't screw up like this unless you set them up wrong.
     
  11. Gigabit

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    Tory Conference is clearly going to be buzzing with great ideas.



    A bridge to Ireland and a festival of Brexit. Great.
     
  12. Dolph

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    It's going to be as awfully depressing as the labour one, another clear reminder that the head bangers are the dominant power in the membership, combined with the useful idiots and wishful thinkers grabbing on to tiny misinterpretations or single lines that they think represent some form of hope when it's all just the same rubbish it has been.
     
  13. Faustus

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    Not true - they have a great track record of going massively over budget, not delivering on their promises and often ending up being scrapped. ;)
     
  14. Faustus

    Soldato

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    Why have we got an avowed Labour man lurking in the conservative party thread?
     
  15. Gigabit

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    Any predictions of policies the Tories might announce? Do you expect a Boris challenge soon?
     
  16. Skunkworks

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    This:

    Hungary is anit-Semitic for taking action against some who happens to be Jewish. Tories are anti-Semitic for not condemning.

    Meanwhile, Jews are fleeing from any country that's been flooded with merkel's murderbots, and Hungary isn't one of them.
     
  17. Gigabit

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    Ah yes, quite right.
     
  18. RDM

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    I think Boris started his challenge as soon as he resigned from Cabinet. As to policies, something about housing (which will already have been announced in one way or another), lots of infighting about Brexit and a surprise splash of cash for either education or the police is possible but it won't be enough to actually make any real difference.
     
  19. Mr Jack

    Capodecina

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    You think he waited that long? Boris had been openly challenging May for a long time before he finally quit.
     
  20. Dolph

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    Expectations, hopeful expectations and wished are probably three different things.

    What I expect to happen is that there will be more infighting and playing to the local crowd, more cake positioning on brexit and more leadership speculation without any action as no one wants to take on brexit.

    What I hope will happen is that the party will look outwards and try to come up with a strong offer to the country, costed, meaningful and achievable and fair to all, rather than the divisive attitude of the Labour party.

    What I want to happen is an announcement that article 50 notification will be withdrawn, we will not be leaving the eu as it is clear that a genuinely Conservative approach to retaining the status quo is what's best for the country and the people in it. I want to see announcements to fix the horrible mess that is universal credit by making it live up to its name and be universal, rather than the adversarial, means tested mess it is as the moment. I want to see measures to clear away the delays in infrastructure improvments that the country is crying out for, and a clear, funded plan to deliver them, measures to help and support businesses, large and small, and encourage them to invest in the UK and base their operations here.