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The Conservative Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Gigabit, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. SPG

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    Tory party....hahaha good one.

    Corbyn as leader putting the country destroying spivs and toffs back under a rock so the majority of hard working people can get on with their lives again.

    Just because someone with an education and so called intelligence of Boris doesnt make him special. A idiot is still a idiot and Boris is a idiot ^200.
     
  2. Dolph

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    What a compelling argument.
     
  3. SPG

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    Who is arguing, Tory rule wrecks lives happend in the 80s and its happening now. Dress it up all you want otherwise.
     
  4. chroniclard

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    Boris must be an utter genius to keep up the "lovable" buffoon act for so many years. Must be like Trump's 4D chess.
     
  5. Dolph

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    Labour rule also wrecks lives. They may not be the same ones, or it may be in different ways, but partisan nonsense helps noone.
     
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  6. SPG

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    Not even close, Tory rule benefits the few its rotten to the core has been for decades possibly centuries. Its so far off the rails its uni-cycle.
     
  7. Dolph

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    What a meaningless word salad.
     
  8. Tony Edwards

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    Exactly. He uses racist tropes and people like Dolph say oh no hes not racist, no no no.
    Whos lives do they wreck? Partisan nonsense helps no one, remember.
     
  9. Dolph

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    More lies, I've been explicit in the past about Johnson's racism.

    The Conservative Party: Where do we go from here?

    You replied to that one, so you can't claim you didn't see it. You are just being dishonest yet again.

    Trapping people on benefits wrecks lives, economic mismanagement wrecks lives. Introducing the work capability assessment wrecks lives...

    The list goes on, and this is not to diminish the negative impact conservative policies have had, just to highlight that blindly voting Labour instead isn't the answer.

    What we need is a reality based view, not one through a political lense.
     
  10. Tony Edwards

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    But yet you dont constantly call him a racist when he is mentioned nor do you consider there to be an islamophobia problem in the Tory party despite all the eveidence.
     
  11. Dolph

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    I don't consider there to be equivalent institutional racism in the Tory party, which is not the same thing at all.
     
  12. StriderX

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-47585200

    Awkward, with how completely out of control the leadership is of their associations and grassroots, it would appear the tories have been ‘infiltrated’ by louder racists.

    /tumbleweed burns in the distance
     
  13. chroniclard

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    Whats up with her eyebrows......
     
  14. Dolph

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    Should be dealt with and those involved removed.

    The party has certainly lurched away from compassionate conservatism following the departure of Cameron/osborne et al
     
  15. StriderX

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    They practically instigated it by pandering to them, now they feel invincible.

    Regardless, until the party proper has any ability to be united, this won’t stop. They’ve already pushed several MPs to either resign their association or entirely from the party. The moderate voice is leaving.
     
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  16. Tony Edwards

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    Compassionate? To actually believe that the Tory party were campasionate under Cameron is so sad. You would have to be dead inside to truly believe that.

    As strider said above. They pandered to the racist for support and allowed their own racism to come to the forefront just like Trump did and brexit is the countries present for it along with the increase in racist incidents. Well done Tories the racists thank you for allowing them a voice.
     
  17. Dolph

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    I agree, both main parties have the same problem, where the membership is becoming the domain of fringe loonies and racists and the moderates are leaving. We have to hope the idea of a new centre party gains ground, and quickly.
     
  18. Tony Edwards

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    You do remember Cameron brought us brexit? Not the new lot, Cameron and his compassionate conservatisism. Its all on him.
     
  19. Dolph

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    The Labour Party doesn't do compassion, it does pity. You probably don't understand the difference though.
     
  20. Dolph

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    Cameron supported remain...