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The Conservative Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Gigabit, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. Mr Jack

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    Boris Johnson - 126

    Jeremy Hunt - 46

    Michael Gove - 41

    Rory Stewart - 37

    Sajid Javid - 33

    Dominic Raab - 30 - KNOCKED OUT

    (From the BBC)

    I think Javid will withdraw before the next ballot. Boris only picked up 12 MPs which is pretty weak, but I expect most of Raab's support will swing behind him.
     
  2. BowdonUK

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    I'm surprised at Stewarts momentum. Though I got to ask what is he actually offering? On GMB he said his plan was to keep pushing May's deal in parliament. How is he going to get it through when May failed?

    I think he played a master move by playing off, what some will percieve Raab's aggression.
     
  3. UTmaniac

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    One pro-Brexit nutcase down, three to go!
     
  4. cheesyboy

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    Raab is ******* useless, so happy to see him go.
     
  5. Uther

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    If only there was something more important to spend their energy on.
     
  6. gettothechopper

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    Glad demonic raab is out

    His votes are going on Boris pile though
    Maybe SJ will drop out?
    As much as I'd like to see Rory the Tory take it, I cant see him taking up all of the other remaining votes
     
  7. satchef1

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    Who is the third?

    Hunt and Javid aren't true believers either. They're just playing the crowd.
     
  8. Sheff

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    He's offering the only credible plan, to think that any of the candidates will be able to (all with a veto) convince 27 other countries to open up and renegotiate the WA but will be unable to convince another 30 MPs to accept the WA is laughable.
     
  9. StriderX

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    Hardly there's only 9k members in all of Scotland, most of which will indeed by in the rural settings (Borders and Shires), but it's rather irrelevant as usual to what England wants.
     
  10. D.P.

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    Well the only choices are to accept the deal May worked on or revoke A50 and cancel Brexit. He is the only one with a shred of credibility. All it takes to get May's deal accepted is to come to ERG that it is May's deal or no brexit.
     
  11. do_ron_ron

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    I thought Raab would go. His tweets that he agreed with Trump about Londinistan were a bit too much for most MPs.
     
  12. gettothechopper

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    It's a shame that if you drop out it doesn't mean that you leave politics for ever
     
  13. cheesyboy

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    :D
     
  14. efish

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    Scotsman 18/06/2019
     
  15. Mr Jack

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    Er, that was Hunt...
     
  16. Freakbro

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    Yea, that's saying a quarter of Scottish Tory Party members (of which there are 9k) would prefer Brexit over staying in the UK
     
  17. efish

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    Its a national poll, if Brexit in a worse case caused, would you accept......

    63% accept Scotland leaving.

    61% would take a significant economic hit.

    59% N.I. leaving.

    A surprising 54% would go for Brexit even if it meant the end of the conservative party.
     
  18. chrismscotland

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    Ah BBC debate, this could be entertaining
     
  19. Mr Jack

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    Javid's sensible credentials going down the pan.
     
  20. jpaul

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    what an impotent/flat format, no direct confrontation with the questioner or an audience .. we want to see how they interact with people