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The Conservative Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Gigabit, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. ic1male


    Joined: Oct 28, 2003

    Posts: 25,428

    Location: Westchestershire

    Yeah I just heard on LBC he's spouted anti-semitic garbage. You couldn't make it up.
  2. robfosters


    Joined: Dec 1, 2010

    Posts: 28,999

    Location: Welling, London

    Also blaming women for being raped.
  3. doodah


    Joined: Oct 18, 2002

    Posts: 19,624

    Location: London

    I honestly think you couldn't have ****** him/his question up any more if you tried. Calamitous on all counts.
  4. SPG


    Joined: Jul 28, 2010

    Posts: 5,287

    The entire conservative party is calamitous, It really is me and my mates before country 100% of the way. I was listening to them on radio 4 last night and every single on of them is so out of touch with reality its untrue. I am not in shock more disgusted with all of them, astonishing.
  5. Quartz


    Joined: Apr 1, 2014

    Posts: 7,323

    Location: Aberdeen

    Umm... no. There's a funny dichotomy up here. People vote for the SNP not because they want independence but for everything else the SNP claim they'll do.
  6. Murphy

    Wise Guy

    Joined: Sep 16, 2018

    Posts: 1,455

    I can't afford a bike. ;)
  7. gettothechopper


    Joined: Feb 22, 2010

    Posts: 4,041

    Location: Southampton

    Just read - the BBC vetted the questioners before the program, including any social media profiles
    The Imam dude reactivated a deactivated twitter account AFTER the program, which people then searched through and found his old dodgy tweets
  8. singularity


    Joined: Apr 2, 2007

    Posts: 918

    Just been reading this stuff about Mr Patel, someone or several people need to be fired, totally unacceptable.
  9. Mr Badger


    Joined: Dec 27, 2009

    Posts: 6,122

    Sounds like a false flag operation...

  10. chrcoluk


    Joined: Feb 27, 2015

    Posts: 3,357

    I dont know how to reply, a lot of ignorance in that post I feel. As ironically I think doing things like tax cuts for people who dont need it is ****** money up the wall.

    Brexit is ****** money up the wall.

    Wrecking the economy is ******* up the wall.

    So the poll basically says they ok with the tories making a mess, but only the tories are allowed.

    It really is a sad state of affairs when you think providing needed infrastructure is wasting money, thats the kind of thing someone well off would think as they can survive without a lot of public services.
  11. Lord-Jaffa


    Joined: Jul 29, 2004

    Posts: 5,396

    Location: UK

    Sounds about par for the course really.
  12. chrcoluk


    Joined: Feb 27, 2015

    Posts: 3,357

    I suggest you do some research.

    A poll on MSE showed some interesting info in the last GE.

    For people under 35 years of age the #1 concern when voting was housing.
    For people over 50 it barely registered on their radar, was way down the list.

    In my view housing is probably the actual reason labour won over young voters rather than university fees.
    Last edited: Jun 19, 2019
  13. ron3003

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    Joined: Oct 25, 2006

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    Location: Skegness

    Imans are just like politicians really, your audience want to listen because you're saying things they like to hear.
  14. BowdonUK

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    So the next voting stages will be;

    Wednesday 19th voting will take place between 3pm to 5pm with the results announced at 6pm.

    Thursday 20th voting will take place between 10am and 12pm with results announced at 1pm.

    If more than 2 are left in the race then another vote will take place between 3.30pm to 5.30pm with the results announced at 6pm.

    Only thing I'm not sure on is if there is a certain vote amount they have to reach, or is it just the last one gets eliminated?
  15. The_Abyss


    Joined: May 15, 2007

    Posts: 11,272

    Location: Ipswich / Bodham

    I believe that it is just last place now, whereas in previous rounds the 1922 Committee can select a vote threshold.
  16. chrcoluk


    Joined: Feb 27, 2015

    Posts: 3,357

    I cant see anything other than a boris win.

    And then brexit forced through for been "democratic" but no new GE even tho a new leader takes the party in a new direction.
  17. FTM


    Joined: Dec 10, 2003

    Posts: 5,930

    Location: South Shields

    even though Boris wanted an election when Gordon brown took over as prime minsiter...as it was undemocratic apparently

    I suspect his views will change by some sort of miracle
  18. chroniclard


    Joined: Apr 23, 2014

    Posts: 11,875

    Location: Hertfordshire

    Boris looks to be way out in the lead, however as people drop out will those voters back Boris or the other candidate.....
  19. robgmun


    Joined: Apr 30, 2006

    Posts: 14,509



    I thought i smelled a fish when he came on, as i said last night on this thread, the BBC seems to have selected the most Muslim looking Muslim they could find, so he could ask the most Muslim question he could ask. It was pure cliqued tokenism on the BBC side, like they're not interested in anything else in life
  20. efish

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    Joined: Jan 11, 2014

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    The world will change as a new generation takes control, they will alter it to make it more consistent with their own beliefs. To the sorrow of the older generation. As history constantly demonstrates.
    Much the same with immigrants who's children and grandchildren alter to become apart of the enviroment they are raised in and different from where they came.

    U.K. itself is a re-distributive economy, places with a higher tax base, London, the S.E. support the parts with a lower tax base, the North, Wales, Scotland, Ireland.
    Although the wrecking ball for the concept of being British and part of a union is now under pressure as the idea of being part of a community or a large society has been eroded since the 80's.