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The Conservative Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Gigabit, Jun 10, 2017.

  1. Mr Jack

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    Javid? Gove? IDS?
     
  2. Quartz

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    Farage being our man in the US would neutralise the Brexit Party.
     
  3. Freakbro

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    Reports are that Gove could be offered Housing and Communities or Northern Ireland Sec
     
  4. Greebo

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    JRM as chancellor and Farage as US ambassador. Job done.
     
  5. VincentHanna

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    Job done to have the most unpopular government of all time?
     
  6. FoxEye

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    I wonder if there's a realistic chance of Boris facing a vote of no confidence as soon as he becomes PM... And if any remain-supporting Tories would vote to end this government and force a GE.
     
  7. Quartz

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    And any Tory MP so voting would lose their seat. Johnson will have them deselected.
     
  8. StriderX

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    If some of them are willing to lose their seats by going indie, then a fair few might be willing once the party is past the point of sanity, so this is a non-threat especially as some are already threatened with it as it is.

    Only a few MP's are required and some could just not vote at all.
     
  9. Greebo

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    There are already several Tory MPs who have said they won’t be standing in the next election so that would leave them free to vote how they want.
     
  10. stockhausen

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    That's going to be a disappointment to Bonker Boris, he sounds as if he would have been the perfect, like-minded man for a ministerial role ;)
     
  11. JeditOjanen

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    More than a chance; it's guaranteed. Labour have already told their MPs to be ready for a three line whip for the day after the new leader takes over. If it's Boris then Grieve and Clarke have said they will resign the whip, and if they do then the government will not have a majority in a VONC without Labour defectors or the current and former CUKs.

    Dover MP Charlie Elphicke will be appearing in court in September on three charges of sexual assault. Dover voted 62% Leave - because they're idiots, natch - so the BXP will be certain to contest any by-election. A split vote there will give the seat to Labour.
     
  12. VincentHanna

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-49072464

     
  13. stockhausen

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    I wonder how soon/often sinners will be welcomed back to the Tory fold after tomorrow's change of leadership? ;)
     
  14. Arazi

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    How many more Tories need to drop\resign now, 2, 3? So May may not be going to the queen on Wednesday after all, which was my thinking months ago.

    Boris needs a majority, he won't have it this time tomorrow
     
  15. Jono8

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    This is how I think it may play out.

    I'm not sure Boris is going to be PM for very long.

    If no deal becomes a likelihood, I imagine a fair few Tory remainers will leave the party and Boris will no longer have a majority/the government .
     
  16. ebilcake

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    If they remove Boris the next step is a general election and many won't want that, after all, many have completely ignored the referendum results in their constituency and have done everything to stop Brexit, many will be out of a job after a general election. :D
     
  17. Arazi

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    He won't have a majority in the next 24\36 hours, which means he cannot be PM this Wednesday, because he cannot command a majority, which means the current PM cannot go to the Queen and resign.
     
  18. Arazi

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    Then a no confidence voted and the current Gov\PM falls, then a GE
     
  19. Nitefly

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    I can’t see many resignations at this point. What was that quote from Game of Thrones.... “Chaos is a Ladder”?
     
  20. VincentHanna

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    A resignation from a cabinet minister doesn't mean a resignation as MP, so he likely will have his majority thanks to the DUP.