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The Democratic 2020 Primaries

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by BowdonUK, Jun 29, 2019.

  1. StriderX

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    He won't, he leaves office in January if he does, leaving Pelosi in charge, it just isn't going to happen.
     
  2. MissChief

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    Clearly this requires a constitutional amendment allowing a President to remain in power without an election in times of crisis. :p
     
  3. BowdonUK

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    I think victory is certain for Trump if Biden is the candidate.

     
  4. TNA

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    :/
     
  5. Sankari

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    The debates will be epic. Trump vs Biden, an entire evening of rambling and gaffes from both sides.



    :D
     
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  6. doodah

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    Hardly surprising - Bernie has pulled out. As Sankari says - Biden vs Trump is going to be a shambles (entertaining though). Lets hope (ha) Biden was been truthful when he said he would engage with Sanders going forward.
     
  7. CaneyJ

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    What a choice American voters have. Two uninspiring, corrupt, elderly, accused rapists suffering alzheimers facing off against each other.
     
  8. Sankari

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    Great to see Bernie endorsing Biden.

    I've seen no evidence that Biden is corrupt.
     
    Last edited: Apr 8, 2020
  9. CaneyJ

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    Why would you; Most people who voted for Biden in the primary saw a rosy Obama past and nothing more.

    The typical Biden voter is an uninformed voter. The mantra goes vote blue not matter who.

    Its not hard to find; Below is a Guardian article for example.

    https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jan/20/joe-biden-corruption-donald-trump

    The summary:
    1. He's beholden to credit card companies which funded many of his campaigns as a senator which encouraged him to back a bankruptcy bill screwing millennials from escaping high interest student debt holding them back.

    2. He's beholden to medical companies for the same reason as the credit card donors.
    He said outright that if he was president and the democratic house passed a bill to create a USA style NHS he would veto it as there is too much private money on the line.

    3. The final one is one that has been talked about a lot and though raised by trump has an element of truth in it.
    He uses Obama's name and his own name riding on the back of it to make money for himself and his family.
    Google hunter biden but tru to find a source that isn't rabid right wing, fox news or one of the other big 2-3 major US news networks about why that's problematic and how he cant weaponize corruption against trump.

    He's also a passive racist but at least he's not an active one like trump.
    Lookup Biden and bussing to start you down that rabbit hole so he cant use that as a club against Trump either.

    He will play nice with the right, the right won't play nice back and he will lose because he is senile and weak.
     
  10. Grim5

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  11. CaneyJ

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    #metoo has just blown itself up by protecting this guy over the accuser without even investigating what is a credible accusation, more so than Kavanaugh anyway.

    Even Biden said a few months back to "believe the women" when they report their stories. Still stand by that Joe?

    A lot of undecided voters are probably going to go with better the Devil you know than vote for a DINO.
     
  12. ANDREW GREEN

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  13. CaneyJ

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    Why did ford wait so long before accusing Kavanaugh?

    If you read more, both women have tried coming forward in the past and it was swept under the rug by both political parties. The media also bury it.

    It's only coming out now because a spotlight is on it.
     
  14. ANDREW GREEN

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    But surely she could goto the police at any stage. She didn't

    Apparently she's a huge Bernie supporter and also wrote "I love Russia with all my heart ... President Putin scares the power elite in America because he is a compassionate, caring, visionary leader."

    It just seems like election tampering.
     
  15. doodah

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    Rank hypocrisy alert....

    Alyssa Milano - a big voice in the Me Too campaign who helped give a voice to the accusers of Kavanaugh and others - sure has a difference of opinion when a sexual assault allegation involves someone she likes.
    And Time’s Up said this regarding Reade's allegation about Biden....
    And the icing on the cake.....
    The MSM barely took notice of Biden's allegation until they couldn't ignore it and it's so frustrating how transparent they are about allegations like this - it can't possibly be true or should be investigated when it involves one of ours.
    Even if you are right, it doesn't mean the allegation is necessarily false. There could be a number of reasons why a victim might come forward years/decades later. It could very well be made up but would they be offering the same tepid reaction if the shoe was on the other foot, why is it so hard to get consistency from them these days.
     
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  16. ANDREW GREEN

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    It's the timing of it that leaves a bitter taste. If she'd done this before the electerate had pretty much decided the Democratic Nominee, then fine. Biden gets slaughtered and we end up with Sanders/Bloomberg/Boutigeg. She's made a police complaint, pretty much after it was decided, which is nothing but for show because statute of limitations has long since passed.

    Maybe it did happen. But false claims do happen too.
     
  17. Sankari

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    This will be a severe test of Biden's support among female voters, which has historically remained high.
     
  18. CaneyJ

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    So Bernie has endorsed Biden buuuut they are also looking at a coalition, interesting.

    If they can follow through and the Biden establishment actually considers and listens to Bernie staffers and some of his policies to get the under-40 demographic of the democratic party to back Biden he's in for a chance against Trump.

    Hillary threw Bernie under the bus in 2016 and lost maybe 30% of her party votes in the process. Can Joe work with them and offer more?
     
  19. Sankari

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    Biden still holding a 6 point lead over Trump, but I don't think that will be enough by the time November arrives

    However, a Biden/Sanders coalition could shake things up quite a bit...
     
  20. Sankari

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    Obama has endorsed BIden.