Soldato
The End of Boris
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I imagine the people that don't care were probably flouting the rules themselves and think we're all mugs for trying to do the right thing.
i can't see him lasting any longer, wait for what enquiry??? that he didn't know he was at a party come off it bojo we as a nation we're following the rules people lost loved ones, having to do zoom calls with family with the fear of them catching covid-19 and dying. Whilst you we're at a BYOD party he's an incompetent baffoon who waffles about the vaccine role out but yet BOJO 150k died on your watch.
Soldato
How can you even begin to defend this ****? Is it the embarrassment of knowing you actually voted for this clownshow?
It doesn't matter what any of us say or think, it will be his MP's and the 1922 commitee who will be sharpening the knives. He is making all of them look like ******* morons.
Wonder where Sunak was today...
This is why it's more likely to be something like the parties that finally sink Boris.
150k dead? Pandemics are hard, people will say he did his best and no one could have done any better.
Brexit? Leaving the EU is hard, people will say he did his best and no one could have done any better.
Rising cost of living? Economics is hard... you get the picture.
But knowing whether or not you were at a party when you weren't supposed to be? Come on, no one thinks that's hard.
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I'm not sure Kindai is defending him, more pointing out it would of made little difference.
I don't know why people keep expecting Boris or any other prime minister to be solely accountability for deaths. Sure if they made the "wrong" decision, but even then its based on factors which we will never actually know. Its Brexit all over again, people make massive assumptions and think they know better OR we could of done better.
Who said im defending him, im just calling out the ridiculous claim that 150k dead is on his head which by its nature implies someone else could have done better.
Whether they would have better numbers or not, the point of matter is we were all following the rules and had to make sacrifices whilst Bojo was boozing it up. Some people didn't even get to say goodbye to their loved ones. He lack of desire to impose restrictions in the first place "let it rip" shows how incompetent he is.
Wasn't there also an issue with PPE, and having to resort to bin bags.
Soldato
I met Boris once in a pub on a Friday lunchtime in the City when he was MOL. He had his cycle helmet, backpack and a suit on. He wandered in, exchanged a few pleastantries at the bar and within 2 mins he was off. He came in for a pee.
He has a level of charisma but he's been promoted way above his abilites.
He has a level of charisma but he's been promoted way above his abilites.
Well, putting an actual steel ring around care homes (like other countrys did) at the start rather than just say you did and actually do nothing would have saved a lot of lives in the first wave, yea.
Not letting Xmas 20 go ahead would have saved a lot more (we doubled the cumulative death count in 11 weeks over Dec/Jan compared to the preceeding Mar-Nov) so yea, there were plenty of things that could have been done better and lowered the death count.
Me and my siblings made the difficult decision to watch our Gran's funeral on webcam that day, rather than attend in person. Under normal circumstances we would have gone, but the restrictions at the time meant the ~8 hours (each way) journey and (likely) overnight stay would have been extremely isolating.
It seems we could have done whatever we wanted after all, as saying "oops, I misunderstood the rules!" is a real life 'get out of jail free' card.
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There were monumental screw ups all along the way. It's almost blindingly obvious there would have been less deaths if a more competent leader was in charge.
Look at today's high court ruling. The "VIP lane" was deemed illegal. One of the two companies specifically mentioned provided PPE that failed in something like 4 out of 6 tests for suitability. Meanwhile existing NHS suppliers who HAD STOCK of approved PPE were ignored.
Hundreds of millions of pounds wasted, given to friends who started companies all the time whilst NHS workers had unsuitable PPE or were going to work wearing bin bags.
Anyone saying nobody else could have done better has had their head in the sand.
Soldato
Why does that matter? I'm sure plenty of people would have done even worse but that doesn't change the fact that he failed, he broke the rules and should resign.
Soldato
So how many more people have to die for you to to think people are not being fair?