the energy gap in 2020 or whatever?

Liamalxd

Liamalxd

Liamalxd

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well im sure most of us have hard of the predicted energy 'gap' when we wont have enough power stations online to power the country when the old coal ones and nuclear ones are decommissioned from old age.

who else thinks this is just a scare tactic? they could easily invest in clean renewable sources to fill the gap but yet they waste billions on nuclear + the waste it produces, germany is 10 times in front of us with renewable energy and we defeated them in the war ... makes sense ? not... lol

i have solar panels so tbh im fine i we have an energy gap, but how do you less fortunate people feel when the UK goverment say HEY between 6-9pm you'll have to go without electricity ...

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Hmm, I'm not sure whether you'll get a positive response on this here. Most don't believe in man made climate change, so probably think renewable is just a way for the Government to tax us more.

I'm not most however, so feel the Government should invest more in renewable energy, if not for climate change, at least so we can produce all our own power and not rely on getting power from France and other countries.
 
true, im into global warming dont worry but still im mainly interested if people think theyre will be energy restrictions or its just a scare tactic
 
Would anyone like a wind turbine in their garden? You'd need one in every garden in the country to provide enough power for the nation.

Solar power is also inefficient, and both 'green' measures I've mentioned here are too costly, and take up too much space to be a viable alternative.

Nuclear energy is the answer.
 
infact solar + hydrogen energy together is the solution but...

if anyone didn't have a wind turbine in theyre garden i'd go YOUR NOT HAVING ELECTRICITY THEN LIVE WITH CANDLES ...

i can bet you they'd change theyre mind then ? they just take **** for granted and thats why they say 'i dont want a wind turbine'
 
Liamalxd said:
infact solar + hydrogen energy together is the solution but...
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"Hydrogen energy?" Don't think that will fill the gap in 2020, given that it's barely in R&D stage at the moment.


Liamalxd said:
exactly the 'correct way is they change the isotope 'slightly' and bury them under the sea for 400 years'

safe? ERM NO! lol
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Which is what they are intending to do with the CO2 emissions at the moment . . . I don't know how much you know about nuclear power, but the Gen III (and forthcoming Gen IV) reactors are very fuel-efficient compared to the older designs in use in the UK today; waste disposal would not be too much of a problem given the much smaller quantities produced. By combining different reactor types (for example, a couple of CANDUs along with the newer PBRs) the amount of waste can be dramatically reduced as well as using other radioactive sources (such as Thorium) to fuel the reactors.
 
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tbh if renewable energy was managed properly we would have MORE THAN ENOUGH energy without covering everywhere with wind turbines
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Yeah so...? If nuclear fusion was managed properly enough, we'd have cold fusion by now which would definatley be more than enough to meet what we need (overegataration (sp?) yes), fact is, renewable energy in it's current form isn't going to a) meet the growing overusing demands of the British public, and b) meet the aesthetic appeasement of the British public, so the quick building of "wasetful" nuclear power stations is the only current possible stop-gap measure to allow you surf overcolockers at half 2 in the morning in the year 2020, without having to run a personal diesel generator.
 
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"Hydrogen energy?" Don't think that will fill the gap in 2020, given that it's barely in R&D stage at the moment.




Which is what they are intending to do with the CO2 emissions at the moment . . . I don't know how much you know about nuclear power, but the Gen III (and forthcoming Gen IV) reactors are very fuel-efficient compared to the older designs in use in the UK today; waste disposal would not be too much of a problem given the much smaller quantities produced. By combining different reactor types (for example, a couple of CANDUs along with the newer PBRs) the amount of waste can be dramatically reduced as well as using other radioactive sources (such as Thorium) to fuel the reactors.
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Granted, But tbh apparently theyre creating a fusion reactor in france, not fission but fusion, but it wont produce any sizeable amount of power till 2025, oh well lets hope we can sort things :(
 
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Yeah so...? If nuclear fusion was managed properly enough, we'd have cold fusion by now which would definatley be more than enough to meet what we need (overegataration (sp?) yes), fact is, renewable energy in it's current form isn't going to a) meet the growing overusing demands of the British public, and b) meet the aesthetic appeasement of the British public, so the quick building of "wasetful" nuclear power stations is the only current possible stop-gap measure to allow you surf overcolockers at half 2 in the morning in the year 2020, without having to run a personal diesel generator.
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like i said i have solar panels so nerr i can surf overclockers at 2.30am :P lmao

that aside, im not saying that renewable energy is anywhere close to its potential but i was just saying even at its current stage it wouldent require 100% of the land to provide enough energy, now if we improved it, it could surpass all energy sources
 
Liamalxd said:
Granted, But tbh apparently theyre creating a fusion reactor in france, not fission but fusion, but it wont produce any sizeable amount of power till 2025, oh well lets hope we can sort things :(
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Fusion is still 50 years away (And will be for a long time). They cannot get out of it what they put in, never mind more. ITER is a research reactor.

Cold fusion - No chance. It is pretty much hokum. (Yes, I know all the controversy, but its up there with all those 'free' energy' fads). Until evidence even suggests otherwise.

I was reading the Rolls Royce magazine, and this is pretty uch what it said:
http://www.edfenergy.com/media-cent...-TO-COLLABORATE-ON-UK-NEW-NUCLEAR-BUILD.shtml

“We plan to build four new European Pressurised Reactors (EPR) nuclear reactors in the UK at
Hinkley Point in Somerset and Sizewell in Suffolk. Subject to the right investment framework
being in place we intend to develop 4 EPRs in the UK by 2025 with the first operational by the
end of 2017.
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So it looks like this is being addressed anyway.
 
At least if everyone keeps building conventional power stations it keeps me in a job of helping in the prouction and service of turbines and generator rotors.
 
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