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The English Channel

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Fatboy123, 25 Nov 2021.

  1. [email protected]

    Capodecina

    Joined: 30 Nov 2005

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    Agree, it's the undesirables we need to stop.

    Use the legal channels = no issue
     
  2. [email protected]

    Capodecina

    Joined: 30 Nov 2005

    Posts: 12,197

    Children of men. Watch that and see what the South east is going to look like
     
  3. Minusorange

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 25 Nov 2005

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    But why don't they want to stay in France or any of the multitude of European countries they've travelled through to reach the coast ? why can't we just adopt those same things that make staying in France unattractive, if there's no incentive to come here, there won't a be a problem of idiots thinking they need to compete in the Darwin awards to get here
     
  4. [email protected]

    Capodecina

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    Speaks volumes of the merits of the eu even those escaping for their lives want brexit
     
  5. thenewoc

    Sgarrista

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    Location: West Sussex, England

    We can, it's called an equivalent Calais **** hole but located in Africa.
     
  6. [email protected]

    Capodecina

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    Posts: 12,197

    This is the answer maybe not Africa I hear the South Sandwich Islands are nice
     
  7. thenewoc

    Sgarrista

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    Location: West Sussex, England

    You don't want it so remote that they stay there though if we're going to be footing the bill. In Africa they will probably flee back to the EU and we can play the EU at their own game of turning a blind eye when they do that journey unless France want to pay us to police the African border of which we couldn't feasibly do, due to its expanse. ;)
     
  8. [email protected]

    Capodecina

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    Posts: 12,197

    True make it an endless game
     
  9. a1ex2001

    Capodecina

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    Posts: 14,734

    Location: Here and There...

    Both France and Germany take significantly
    more asylum seekers per year than we do in the UK, some just want to come to the UK quite often for language reasons other times for family connections etc etc
     
  10. [email protected]

    Capodecina

    Joined: 30 Nov 2005

    Posts: 12,197

    And France and Germany are significantly bigger than the UK.

    What's your point?
     
  11. PapaLazaru

    Capodecina

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    Posts: 17,997

    Location: RG8

    Can you counter with an asylum seeker per land mass assessment? I'm keen to know!
     
  12. Efour

    Caporegime

    Joined: 8 Sep 2005

    Posts: 27,380

    Location: Norrbotten, Sweden.

    China and Russia should take all the asylum seekers they are well big...

    is geographical area still the top reason to not accept refugees? :p looooooool

    Or is it "we are full up" kinda argument?

    I would argue that most of the illegal refugees are just **** people, from mostly **** cultures that are simply incompatible with the west and its values.

    Most European countries already have an excess of ****, self entitled dole scroungers, clogging the arteries of progress. More car washes wont fix that.

    The lengths that all these Arsenal and Manchester united fans are going to get to the UK to rape, blow themselves up and occasionally murder someone is astounding ... :p
     
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  13. FoxEye

    Caporegime

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    Location: Cornwall

    European Countries by Population (2021) - Worldometer (worldometers.info)

    Well, we're already more densely populated then both Germany and France, and our population is growing faster than both of them.

    How many more do we want to pack in, immigrant or native.

    We also have a really, really bad housing crisis here, which isn't going to be helped by (as others have suggested) having unlimited immigration.
     
  14. thenewoc

    Sgarrista

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    Location: West Sussex, England

    Could have been avoided if France accepted responsibility for those on its territory and accepted them being returned. Morally they must know that is the right thing to do as that was what was happening pre Brexit. It's only because these people are succeeding to circumvent a loophole that more continue to follow. If they were all being deposited back to France they wouldn't have endless thousands of pounds to keep paying people traffickers.
     
  15. Ahleckz

    Capodecina

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    Location: Glasgow

    I mean, we’re now advocating genocide? I think you need to have some time away from the internet.
     
  16. [FnG]magnolia

    Pancake

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    Location: Auckland

    That's normally @FoxEye 's domain and he'll get grumpy at me for pointing it out again but that doesn't make it any less true. There are some extreme positions being taken in this thread - most threads actually in GD - and it's saddening that it's become the norm.
     
  17. jpaul

    Capodecina

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    Boris with his stupid tweet diplomacy (mini Trump)- pretty obvious that suggesting that French should take back any illegal immigrants who arrive on our shores would cause consternation/EU kickback, unfortunately we have to bear some of the cost and responsibility.

    ( assylum seeker per landmass - what's that got to do with price of coffee - France takes 3x what we do with similar population - full stop.)
     
  18. plasmahal

    Mobster

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    They do..........

    You can fly over from France, drive through the channel tunnel or use a ferry.

    loads of ways.
     
  19. The Running Man

    Caporegime

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    Location: block 16, cell 12

    First step no free legal aid
    No free interpreters
    No free healthcare
    No free accommodation
    If no proof of citizenship is presented claim automatically denied

    Every claimant should have to provide finger print/retina scan
    No right to bring family members over

    Every claim should only result in temporary status with the claimant to be deported at the end of the temporary stay

    This would likely fix the issue.
     
  20. inferno

    Wise Guy

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    Have you seen the problems they are having in France? In Germany there were mass attacks on women and it was not Germans doing it.