Soldato
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Lol, you really do post some outrageous stuff.We already have a far-right government, the bills going through parliament and the rhetoric is enough of a clue.
Lol, you really do post some outrageous stuff.We already have a far-right government, the bills going through parliament and the rhetoric is enough of a clue.
Exactly what you find unusable immoral other think it is fineAt one time participation in slavery was morally acceptable in the UK together with slavers in the middle and far east. Today the UK would rightly say that slavery is morally wrong. The middle and far east? Well it depends.
"but why do they come here?!"First victim of the recent accident identified:
Heartbreaking story, RIP.
As I said earlier, you have no idea who is trying to come here, in a more general sense."but why do they come here?!"
Real people with real lives and hopes and ambitions, fleeing difficult situations and hoping for better. And we question their morals, talk of them like animals, and feel little for their tragic passing.
First victim of the recent accident identified:
Heartbreaking story, RIP.
Well before we kill people perhaps we should try the things that are supported by evidence to reduce crime? Investing in youth services, reducing poverty, improving education.
I doubt the incidence of people coming here with bad intentions in mind is anything but a vanishingly rare occurrence tbh. Aren't most of our terror incidents people who radicalised within the UK?No doubt it's a mixture of those with good intentions and those with dubious intentions.
We can take as many as want to take. We've been used to an average of +250k on net annual immigration for the past couple of decades and with that figure falling to 30k post brexit, there's scope (and possibly necessity) to take as many as we can.Again, how many migrants can the UK take? Would you put a figure on it, please?
How criminal does one have to be for you to lose all sympathy for them dying prematurely ?Yes it's sad that people are dying if they are decent people. I'm not sad if anyone criminal dies though.
A stat from a study from perhaps a decade ago said that most (I.e. Over 50%) UK households pay no net tax. That's once all benefits are weighed against tax paid.I would say the same about a Glaswegian heroin addict. If you've tried several times and failed, they are a drain on our society and should be removed from it permanently for the wider benefit.
So in your view we can take an unbounded, potentially unlimited number, so long as there is the political will to take them?We can take as many as want to take.
Well yeah. I'm not advocating taking millions of refugees, but there's no reason for it not to be possible and somewhat successful if the government wanted to make it work.So in your view we can take an unbounded, potentially unlimited number, so long as there is the political will to take them?
Aren't most of your posts based on being an insufferable douchebag? Answer: yes.Isn't most of this 'debate' based on emotional hand-wringing? I think it's the concept of the apparent unfairness or benefit or illegal nature of immigrants versus what we individually and actually experience as a result of immigration? I can't imagine Cornwall has many immigrants (other than the London overspill with 3 holiday homes each) so this is in some ways a showing of intellectual reckoning rather than actual experience. Or does everyone in this thread face daily hardship because other people have tried to improve their lives?
While I agree with that view, you are deflecting a little bit. Your views are emotional based on bias not actual outcome which affects you. Am I wrong?Aren't most of your posts based on being an insufferable douchebag? Answer: yes.
Do we have unlimited resources to give to people who want a better life than the country they live in at present?While I agree with that view, you are deflecting a little bit. Your views are emotional based on bias not actual outcome which affects you. Am I wrong?
"but why do they come here?!"
Real people with real lives and hopes and ambitions, fleeing difficult situations and hoping for better. And we question their morals, talk of them like animals, and feel little for their tragic passing.
Isn't most of this 'debate' based on emotional hand-wringing? I think it's the concept of the apparent unfairness or benefit or illegal nature of immigrants versus what we individually and actually experience as a result of immigration? I can't imagine Cornwall has many immigrants (other than the London overspill with 3 holiday homes each) so this is in some ways a showing of intellectual reckoning rather than actual experience. Or does everyone in this thread face daily hardship because other people have tried to improve their lives?
I don't know and didn't say thatWhy does it need to affect his local areas specifically for him to have a view or be concerned about it?
I know and I can only wonder why you're setting that sentence up as though I'd suggested otherwiseMigrants drowning in the channel is still an issue and migrants requiring housing, benefits while awaiting a claim etc.. is also still an issue.