Soldato
Yes says a lot about the EU doesn't it.
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Yes says a lot about the EU doesn't it.
Soldato
Well they could under your grand plan. Sounds like a great idea to me. I quite fancy Oz but it's a long row.
Soldato
To be honest, this thread is quite well illustrating how utterly based upon 'feelings' rather than logic the anti-asylum crowd is.
Barely a shred of critical analysis between all of you.
Barely a shred of critical analysis between all of you.
Soldato
Yes they're economic migrants rather than asylum seekers, the latter is just used as a way to achieve their goal. We can't house unlimited numbers of people who just choose they'd like to pitch up on our shores, it's just not practical and we should be sorting our housing market / stock out to assist our own citizens first.
Soldato
There's no benefit to flooding our country with more people who aren't going to work or we have no need for or who will be taking jobs that UK citizens should get.
What I want to know is what is the incentive to come to Britain?
European countries have always said we're a soft touch and thats why people head here instead of stopping in europe.
So why are people coming here instead of staying in europe?
European countries have always said we're a soft touch and thats why people head here instead of stopping in europe.
So why are people coming here instead of staying in europe?
Soldato
We have loads of shortages of labour that asylum seekers could help fill. Except they aren't allowed to work (another government choice that they could change)
Soldato
France and Germany each take three times as many applications as we do annually
Soldato
Yes it's certainly not something I overly understand. The idea that the majority have links here seems rather tenuous, and spending thousands of pounds to risk their lives getting here illegally doesn't seem to make much sense unless they really do believe this is the land of milk and honey.
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That's not what you said and your response is wrong.
You proposed that entry to the UK for asylum purposes would not require a passport.
As you will know, asylum seekers do have claims approved without travel documentation. This happens under the existing process.
That means lack of travel documentation does not rule out a successful claim.
The likely impact of your scene would be to increase entries, and the proportion of entries with no identification, adding further difficulty to an asylum system already stretched to breaking point.
Soldato
Also, here you complain at the prospect of asylum seekers not working, but also at the prospect of them getting jobs.
Soldato
And also encourage many more people to risk their lives in the channel.
Soldato
Yes, but you have to be in the UK before you can apply for asylum (UK government choice, again), so you need to travel here first.
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I propose a one in, one out system where we send a dinghy full of our oiks back for every one that comes across. Pretty sure most of the asylum seekers will be better members of society than half the people we have in the country already.
That's because people destroy their passports and lie about their country of origin to apply for asylum so they can live here, are you that naive?
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Thankfully we have a voting system where any government stupid enough to try and enact proposals such as "cheesyboy's" free for all would be out on their ear. There's a lot of PC and dishonesty in here, a majority of the UK voting population simply don't want these mainly young male people of dubious, none documented origin and intent, and will vote for a party they believe will robustly counter illegal immigration under the veil of asylum seeking.
If the situation worsens the parties offering the most robust immigration controls will be in with a good shout. Boris has proven useless in this regard, although having greedy lawyers costing the legal aid system a fortune with specious claims from these crooks, and the liberal wets opposing any robust counter measures makes his job unenviable to say the least.
If the situation worsens the parties offering the most robust immigration controls will be in with a good shout. Boris has proven useless in this regard, although having greedy lawyers costing the legal aid system a fortune with specious claims from these crooks, and the liberal wets opposing any robust counter measures makes his job unenviable to say the least.
The ones crossing or attempting to cross are a tiny number of the total number who enter EU countries each year, mainly due to there actually being more favourable conditions for them over there. The ones that do it are either told to by traffickers who sell them a dream, language, family ties, ease of black market work. A lot are uneducated and when they're told by unscrupulous people what to do they blindly follow.
Imagine getting on a dinghy with your wife and 4 kids all under 10 and taking a trip that could easily kill all of you. I cant imagine they are fully cognitive of the risks.
Imagine getting on a dinghy with your wife and 4 kids all under 10 and taking a trip that could easily kill all of you. I cant imagine they are fully cognitive of the risks.