Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
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Yeah.
They can wheel him back in again as well!
He's clearly totally forgotten all about the Maastricht Treaty/Rebels.
What would you suggest they do? Boris has repeatedly misled the public. The Remain campaign would be failing in their duties if they didn't point this out.
I'd try and win the argument by presenting a positive, optimistic vision of Britain in the EU. The Leave campaign can do this for Britain outside the EU, why can't the 'in' campaign?
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The Tory faithful haven't forgot this. He's also an adulterer who did the nasty with Edwina Currie.
He agreed that immigration poses a problem, explained that 88m Turks invading the UK was total BS and he was pretty clear about what he was "angry with"
Bear in mind it's a 3-minute clip of John Major speaking, so Marr started speaking when it cut.
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There is a shocking lack of knowledge when it comes to the facts.
I was out with my CLP yesterday, I wasn't campaigning for in as I am undecided, I can argue for in and out.
One chap was talking to two of of our younger members and he was becoming quite aggressive.
To be fair to him he was actually prepared to listen. He was convinced that Turkey was about to join the EU, when I pointed out that since Turkey applied to join the EU in the late eighties, that had met only one of the 35 chapters required to join, he was honest and said he didn't that was the case, by the end of the conversation he agreed that Turkey joining wasn't going to happen anytime soon.
I was out with my CLP yesterday, I wasn't campaigning for in as I am undecided, I can argue for in and out.
One chap was talking to two of of our younger members and he was becoming quite aggressive.
To be fair to him he was actually prepared to listen. He was convinced that Turkey was about to join the EU, when I pointed out that since Turkey applied to join the EU in the late eighties, that had met only one of the 35 chapters required to join, he was honest and said he didn't that was the case, by the end of the conversation he agreed that Turkey joining wasn't going to happen anytime soon.
This is the problem, the whole thing is going to be decided by cretins and mongoloids who get their information from the toilet, this whole referendum is literally the worst idea.
Both sides are guilty of doing this.
Considering how long they've known about the up coming referendum you'd expect them to have prepared better.
Both sides just bait each other, all it would take for a big swing either way would be if the other side didn't react to the mud flinging.
Imagine if the Out camp had stuck to this and all the scare tactics was one sided from the Remain camp.
Unfortunately neither side has done so.
But he wasn't a cretin or a mongoloid as you describe him, that is the point.
It's interesting to me how some of the older Tories have made the jump to elder statesman quite successfully, John Major and Michael Hesseltine are both people who I wouldn't have had a lot of time for but in recent years they've managed to morph into people worth listening to even if you don't agree with then at all.
Anyone who gets aggressive in an argument over EU membership, when their main gripe boils down to Turkey joining the EU, is a total cretin - end of.
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Presumably for whatever reason you don't feel the same about Norman Lamont and Michael Howard?
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