Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[The Mad Rapper]

Whereas we vote to leave and it won't happen?

Can you work out anything yourself? Or are you just going to ask stupid questions all evening?

 

[cainer]

Why is that?

because it is innit mush, brb shop.. need more Stella

 

[stewski]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...0-women-were-sexually-assaulted-a6867071.html

 

[vincent1989]

A vote to remain is a vote for ever increasing 'unity', complete loss of sovereignty and complete chaos like we've witnessed over the last year.

I think it's shameful that Cameron can campaign to remain when he said if he couldn't get a number of reforms signed sealed and delivered he would campaign for exit. The man is a complete failure. it's emperors new clothes except they even got his pride! What a weakling.

 

[cainer]

A vote to remain is a vote for ever increasing 'unity', complete loss of sovereignty and complete chaos like we've witnessed over the last year.

I think it's shameful that Cameron can campaign to remain when he said if he couldn't get a number of reforms signed sealed and delivered he would campaign for exit. The man is a complete failure. it's emperors new clothes except they even got his pride! What a weakling.

Cameron will go down as one of the weakest PM's in the countries history...
and bear in mind that we had John Major for a while!

 

[[TW]Fox]

not yet, just wait till after an IN vote and Merkel decides she needs to share out her burden...

Which she can't just randomly do and enforce on other countries, no matter how convinced some people are that she could.

 

[[TW]Fox]

A vote to remain is a vote for ever increasing 'unity', complete loss of sovereignty and complete chaos like we've witnessed over the last year.

Well it's not, because further unity or sovereignty concession would trigger further referendum in the UK - it's law.

 

[cainer]

Which she can't just randomly do and enforce on other countries, no matter how convinced some people are that she could.

could she not issue them with EU passports?
she definitely cant do that right?? 100% she cant do that.. right??

 

[phil675]

Which she can't just randomly do and enforce on other countries, no matter how convinced some people are that she could.

Maybe not Merkel but the EU are trying.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/countries-refusing-to-accept-refugees-could-be-fined-hundreds-of-millions-of-pounds-a7012761.html

European countries which refuse to take in refugees may be fined hundreds of millions of pounds, it has been reported.

The proposal is reportedly due to be announced by Jean-Claude Junker on behalf of the European Commission today as part of a package of reforms of the EU’s asylum rules amid the ongoing refugee crisis.

The draft law will suggest countries pay “a solidarity contribution” of 250,000 Euros per asylum applicant which it does not take, The Daily Telegraph reports. The money would be paid to states which have accepted refugees.

What a great trading block this is.

 

[Macro]

Well it's not, because further unity or sovereignty concession would trigger further referendum in the UK - it's law.

Don't start waving facts around like that - you'll upset someone

 

[[TW]Fox]

could she not issue them with EU passports?

No, she cannot - German law requires various things before citizenship, and thus a passport, can be issued, including:

a) 5 years residency
b) Fluent German language skills
c) Economically active in the community

Once you've become a fluent German speaker with a job and you've lived somewhere 5 years you'd hardly up-sticks to another country anyway.

she definitely cant do that right?? 100% she cant do that.. right??

Are we dealing in facts here or just making stuff up? I thought 'scaremongering' was for the In crowd?

 

[Danthus]

Well it's not, because further unity or sovereignty concession would trigger further referendum in the UK - it's law.

We haven't had one vote on the EU in a generation, look at all the policies that have been introduced.

The only reason we are having a vote now is to satisfy internal Conservative infighting.

 

[The Mad Rapper]

We haven't had one vote on the EU in a generation, look at all the policies that have been introduced.

The only reason we are having a vote now is to satisfy internal Conservative infighting.

Err...no. The referendum was promised to the public at the last General Election by Cameron who was worried about the impact of UKIP.

 

[Macro]

Funnily enough I've been sitting on the fence for this for a while, bizarrely the more I hear from Brexit campaigners the more I'm becoming convinced the case for leaving consists of little more then "Damn immigrants, we were OK before the EU (remember the empire dammit!), and if we stray in we'll be ruled by johnny foreigner, mark my words".

Shame really as I actually tend to think the future is served better by people working together, not bickering over things based on arbitrary lines drawn on a map. I'd really like to see a strong proposal to stay in with a mandate to influence and correct the obvious problems (such as bloated over financed bureaucracy etc.)

 

[vincent1989]

Well it's not, because further unity or sovereignty concession would trigger further referendum in the UK - it's law.

It's smoke and mirrors and nothing more. Cameron has bandied words like 'cast iron' about before, all that's required is a change of wording and a few silver coins across the right palm.

People aren't buying it anymore, I don't think anyone had or has a problem with an economic trading block, as was put to my parents generation, but fast forward and we're a far cry from what we were sold.

 

[cainer]

Err...no. The referendum was promised to the public at the last General Election by Cameron who was worried about the impact of UKIP.

was just going to post the same.. lol

 

[cainer]

the more I hear from Brexit campaigners the more I'm becoming convinced the case for leaving consists of little more then "Damn immigrants"

i think you need to educate yourself a lil more on the reasons to leave tbh

 

[Danthus]

i think you need to educate yourself a lil more on the reasons to leave tbh

A guy I spoke to on Saturday morning handing out Vote Leave leaflets wanted to leave becasue when he went to the doctors and not many Cheshire names came up on the notice board.

 

[cainer]

A guy I spoke to on Saturday morning handing out Vote Leave leaflets wanted to leave becasue when he went to the doctors not many Cheshire names came up on the notice board.

and bloody right too...

 

[scorza]

Well the Japanese prime minister saying the UK would be less of a country to invest in post Brexit is based on reality. Turkey joining the EU is based on scaremongering from a camp at odds with a huge swathe of high level commentators.

Ah well if high level commentators say so! They're never wrong are they?

The Japanese PM said what he said while he was sharing a stage with David Cameron - just like every other foreign leader who has warned us against Leaving the EU. It's funny isn't it? How they don't seem to be concerned about Brexit until they've just finished a diplomatic negotiation with DCam.