Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%
  • Total voters
    1,759
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Mulder said:
You've certainly changed your tune on TTIP since the leaks. Before the leaks you were happy to "wait to see the detail" and defend it (like here). Luckily people are much less trusting of the EU than you and exposed it for what it is, so you now have the benefit of seeing the truth.
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It's a pretty consistent view - wait until seeing the detail, get some detail and then make a judgement.

I'd also like to point out that there is a lot of European opposition to TTIP and the UK isn't alone in having reservations. This is by no means a done deal by the EU as the EU hasn't agreed yet.
 
lowrider007 said:
Can I ask a question,

I've always planned on retiring in the EU, as does my mum in the near future, how will your collection of state pension be effected living in the EU if we exit?
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Given the EU will continue its march toward becoming one single country, I'd be more worried about things like "harmonisation" (as they like to call it) of economic/monetary policy negatively impacting Britain in the future and the impact that may have on the state pension.
 
Moses said:
With it looking unlikely TTIP will happen, given the opposition amongst MEPs and throughout Europe. But the Tories support it, so if we left it's arguably more likely that TTIP wouldn't happen between the US and EU, but we'd lap up a similarly contentious bilateral deal with the US, instead.
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Ironic really isn't it given how much 'TTIP means you should leave' gets mentioned.
 
Voter registration site crashed last night, MPs are calling for an extension. Do people really care so much about the future that they leave it until the last few minutes to bother registering...
 
It's worth bearing in mind that without any sort of free trade deal existing between the UK and the USA, we still manage to export something like $50bn worth of goods there, and import $45bn worth of goods from them. They are our biggest export destination and our fourth biggest source of imports. In other words, we don't need to sign up to a TTIP-style deal, we're managing fine without one. If however a deal could be proposed that would be to the UK's advantage then I would support a post-Brexit government signing up to it.

I don't believe the TTIP deal the EU was negotiating for us would have been to our advantage, but don't know that for sure because they were keeping the details of the deal secret.
 
Mulder said:
Given the EU will continue its march toward becoming one single country, I'd be more worried about things like "harmonisation" (as they like to call it) of economic/monetary policy negatively impacting Britain in the future and the impact that may have on the state pension.
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And the EU's idea of "harmonisation" is usually dragging solvent member states down towards the lowest common denominator as they are called upon to finance insolvent ones.
 
Uther said:
Voter registration site crashed last night, MPs are calling for an extension. Do people really care so much about the future that they leave it until the last few minutes to bother registering...
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No, it's patently blindingly obvious that servers have only so much bandwidth and the equivalent of a DDOS attack (by individuals) could crash it. The system has been live and working for a long time therefore presumably fit for purpose.

The seemingly huge volume of people who care so little for their democracy that they leave it until 1h 45m before the close is disconcerting to say the least.The same as leaving the pub to vote at 9:55pm and finding a queue.
 
Cameron worried that there aren't enough voters for remain to win, evidently, extending the deadline for atleast 24 hours in response to a few hours of outage.
 
nkata said:
No, it's patently blindingly obvious that servers have only so much bandwidth and the equivalent of a DDOS attack (by individuals) could crash it. The system has been live and working for a long time therefore presumably fit for purpose.

The seemingly huge volume of people who care so little for their democracy that they leave it until 1h 45m before the close is disconcerting to say the least.The same as leaving the pub to vote at 9:55pm and finding a queue.
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If they do extend the process what happens if it crashes again, do you just keep extending it. ?
 
I am on the Electoral register - That means I have a vote doesn't it - I think I read I turn up at polling station - give my name and address and I vote - Is that right.

I am a old codger and watched my dad after war finished and now UK is being given away by the rich Elite for even more sheckels .:mad:
 
DXP55 said:
I am on the Electoral register - That means I have a vote doesn't it - I think I read I turn up at polling station - give my name and address and I vote - Is that right.

I am a old codger and watched my dad after war finished and now UK is being given away by the rich Elite for even more sheckels .:mad:
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They changed the system recently, did you vote in the regional elections just gone? If you were registered for that, you should be registered for this. I got my polling card through the post a couple of weeks ago,
 
DXP55 said:
I am on the Electoral register - That means I have a vote doesn't it - I think I read I turn up at polling station - give my name and address and I vote - Is that right.
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I've lost/forgotten my polling card, can I still vote?

Don't let that stop you voting, you don't need your polling card to vote if you are on the electoral register - and if you are unsure where you polling station is, your local authority can remind you.

You can find the contact details of your local authority by entering your postcode in the 'Your local area' section on our registration website, www.aboutmyvote.co.uk.
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Overclockers UK Forum is generally a good place to meet people with their head screwed on the right way.

I voted leave.

This video is interesting.

 
Lord Astor said this yesterday -
'Perhaps most important of all, if the Brexiteers win, an exit from the EU is actually not deliverable.
'The EU referendum is merely advisory; it has no legal standing to force an exit. Parliament is still sovereign.
'We will need an Act of Parliament to revoke the European Communities Act 1972, by which Britain joined the EEC or Common Market, or perhaps a paving bill enabling the Government to start the Leave negotiations. But whatever, a vote will be required.

The Government, whether still led by David Cameron or not, would probably not win the vote in the House of Commons. Labour could claim the referendum was too close and did not include a majority to leave in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. Therefore the Labour Party, the SNP and the few Lib Dems would claim to have the mandate to vote against the bill.

It would then only take a few fiercely europhile Tories to consult their constituents and their consciences, and decide that after all their campaigning to stay in the EU they cannot vote to leave either. Can one imagine Ken Clarke voting to leave even on a three-line whip?
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Cameron was twice asked to confirm today at PMQ's that whatever the result was it would be binding and he couldn't confirm it, just waffled something about the will of the people.
 
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