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Great, more pseudoscience, the only purpose of which is to make the author money and to make stupid morons feel more intelligent than they are.

Honestly in today’s climate I would love to see OCs take the stance to lock these types of threads and ban the idiot that posts this crap.
 
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Today I read this brilliant book that I wanted to share with you all.

Why?

It’s free to download (probably because it’s so important)

No, not because it's so important. It's free to download because it isn't the product... you are the product.

I’ve also bought it, twice!

See above. ;)

In the UK you can pre-order it on Amazon, it’s due for release on 9th April 2020.

Why are you now promoting the sale of a book that is free to download?
 
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@Dave M - drop imputing nonsense to my post. I did no such scare mongering, or fact mangling.

Except that you did, then deleted your post and asked me to delete my reply because it quoted your post. Presumably Dave M saw your post before it was deleted.

@Angilion, yes, I asked you to delete my post, but not for your guessed assumption. [..]

I do not make a "guessed assumption". I repeated your publically stated reason.
 
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TIt’s a brilliant and eye opening essay, which is superbly referenced, about 1/3 of the book is bibliography! The guy who wrote this clearly worked very hard and is an exceptional and engaging writer.

The size of a bibliography alone is not a great measure of quality, I was curious so I decided to investigate a single quote I stumbled on when reading through and strike me as an example of something likely to be taken out of context. It is the only quotation I have investigated, I am not cherry picking here:

Why have epidemic patterns in Great Britain not altered in four centuries, centuries that have seen great increases in the speed of human transport?

John J. Cannell, M.D. (2008), “On the Epidemiology of Influenza,” in Virology Journal​

Which you will find on page 88, and is presented as a direct quote. Curiously, whilst the quotations above and the sections below get numbered citations in the end matter, this one doesn't. No matter, it is easy to find. The first thing I note is the wrong attribution, the article he's citing has five authors, it should be attributed to Cannell et al. The second thing I notice is that the above quote is actually cited in the article, it's not a novel question: why not cite the primary source then? This is poor citation practice. But the choice of Cannell is also interesting because he's known for two things: 1. a controversial anti-smoking stance where he turned patients away from his clinic, and 2. a poorly supported hypothesis that vitamin D deficiency is linked to influenza infection (he also published, away from peer review, that he thinks vitamin D deficiency causes autism; it seems to be his thing). The third thing is that the paper he is citing is an attempt to answer the question posed. Presenting the quote as if Cannell et al think it is an unanswered question is misleading; in fact, they think they have the answer and give it in the paper cited. What's more the whole paper is essentially an answer to an earlier paper by Hope-Simpson and Golubev which itself offers a (different) answer to the question in the quote. It's also worth noting that both the Cannell et al paper and the second paper both contain references to abundant evidence demonstrating that Influenza is being spread by the Influenza virus (Influenza A in this case) and so abundant evidence against the notion of the book.

So, in a single arbitrarily chosen quote, we find: 1. Incorrect attribution; 2. Incorrect choice of source; 3. Misleading use of a quotation; and 4. Ignoring of other information in the cited source. With this in mind, do you still think that thick bibliography counts for much?
 
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Fascinating. I'll be sure to pick up a copy when I next order healing crystals

Best reply and gave me such a giggle!

The data presented in this amazing book is clear. We should all return to caves and forget about vaccines and antibiotics. We will resume dieing of normal things like plant cuts at the age of 32. Cancer rates would disappear! Happier times

Also, whilst this book is excellent, it has missed one crucial emerging trend

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Boycott Nicolas Cage films now!! Or drown
 
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The size of a bibliography alone is not a great measure of quality, I was curious so I decided to investigate a single quote I stumbled on when reading through and strike me as an example of something likely to be taken out of context. It is the only quotation I have investigated, I am not cherry picking here:

Why have epidemic patterns in Great Britain not altered in four centuries, centuries that have seen great increases in the speed of human transport?

John J. Cannell, M.D. (2008), “On the Epidemiology of Influenza,” in Virology Journal​

Which you will find on page 88, and is presented as a direct quote. Curiously, whilst the quotations above and the sections below get numbered citations in the end matter, this one doesn't. No matter, it is easy to find. The first thing I note is the wrong attribution, the article he's citing has five authors, it should be attributed to Cannell et al. The second thing I notice is that the above quote is actually cited in the article, it's not a novel question: why not cite the primary source then? This is poor citation practice. But the choice of Cannell is also interesting because he's known for two things: 1. a controversial anti-smoking stance where he turned patients away from his clinic, and 2. a poorly supported hypothesis that vitamin D deficiency is linked to influenza infection (he also published, away from peer review, that he thinks vitamin D deficiency causes autism; it seems to be his thing). The third thing is that the paper he is citing is an attempt to answer the question posed. Presenting the quote as if Cannell et al think it is an unanswered question is misleading; in fact, they think they have the answer and give it in the paper cited. What's more the whole paper is essentially an answer to an earlier paper by Hope-Simpson and Golubev which itself offers a (different) answer to the question in the quote. It's also worth noting that both the Cannell et al paper and the second paper both contain references to abundant evidence demonstrating that Influenza is being spread by the Influenza virus (Influenza A in this case) and so abundant evidence against the notion of the book.

So, in a single arbitrarily chosen quote, we find: 1. Incorrect attribution; 2. Incorrect choice of source; 3. Misleading use of a quotation; and 4. Ignoring of other information in the cited source. With this in mind, do you still think that thick bibliography counts for much?

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The size of a bibliography alone is not a great measure of quality, I was curious so I decided to investigate a single quote I stumbled on when reading through and strike me as an example of something likely to be taken out of context. It is the only quotation I have investigated, I am not cherry picking here:
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So, in a single arbitrarily chosen quote, we find: 1. Incorrect attribution; 2. Incorrect choice of source; 3. Misleading use of a quotation; and 4. Ignoring of other information in the cited source. With this in mind, do you still think that thick bibliography counts for much?

Nice one. You've got more patience than me with this stuff! :)
 

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While there are now found causative disruptive (to health) effects of ELF on cellular pathway signalling
, including release of heat-shock proteins (p38 If I recall correctly), and some ongoing work (separate from the VGCC [voltage-gated calcium channel] experiments of others) that has demonstrated effectively one definite upstream precursor of cellular signalling (believed to be the EMF sensor, but not perhaps the only one)

E.g.. see Tel Aviv university lecture
https://youtu.be/kv_p30L8GZ0 ;

And:
Some modelling to foreward against potential future adverse health impacts of higher subThz frequency thresholds due to the virtual helical coil antenna of sweat ducts - a prescoping due to the range of likely positive future medical advances enabled by higher frequency field use,
(E.g. see: https://www.osapublishing.org/boe/abstract.cfm?uri=boe-9-3-1301#Abstract

And

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S001393511830033 ); and

That much earlier work by Japanese researchers in the mid 1990's established simple sensing effects - that human skin sensing of magnetic fields occurs by the vibratory effects of the field produced in human hair, and is less well sensed in conditions of increased atmospheric humidity;

And any EMF technology risks are a current matter of practical importance to engineers seeking to mitigate any adverse health risk that may arise from the increasing RF equipment in home and work environments. E.g
https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8718293 .

I am aware that the discovery of the full biological causal chain (the building blocks) of 'EMF senstivity' at the animal level is still being actively researched.

On a personal level, I have some passing experience of adverse physiological effects of exposure to EMF field's in the radio band that exceeded government-established safe limits by a factor of 3.7 and 4.2 effectively, as I noted months ago. Due to a faulty (misaligned) transmission path by a network equipment operator.
 
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Wiki of the author

The thing about recommending a book to someone is you can never be offended if they don't read it - I never ask or care if they read it - it is up to them.

As the recipient of the recommendation in adult life we have to critically apprise whether to spend our limited time reading said book recommendation or doing something else more useful. We must critically apprise.

If wiki is never wrong - this is a mathematician who dropped out of medical school after 4 years because they were sensitive to 40 dental x-rays. They sued their neighbour for not turning off their cell phone. My giddy Aunt! Don't waste your time when you could read these instead:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Science-Hi...science+gribbin&qid=1586684616&s=books&sr=1-2

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evolution-...olution+is+true&qid=1586684679&s=books&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Greatest-S...t+show+on+earth&qid=1586684706&s=books&sr=1-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brief-Hist...s&sprefix=a+brief+histroy+,audible,150&sr=1-1

Or
https://www.amazon.co.uk/A-History-...sell+philosophy&qid=1586684765&s=books&sr=1-1

Or
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Galileos-D...rds=dava+sobel+daughter&qid=1586684815&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Longitude-...ld=1&keywords=longitude&qid=1586684834&sr=8-1

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Isaac-Newt...1&keywords=isaac+gleick&qid=1586684970&sr=8-1


Hopefully forum buddies will post some other good science reads worthy of a recommendation.
 
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