Poll: The GD Referendum – Scottish Independence

Your vote

  • Yay, I want to be free

    Votes: 161 19.9%
  • Nay, never untie the knot

    Votes: 441 54.4%
  • Don’t care about Haggis and chips.

    Votes: 209 25.8%

  • Total voters
    811
no wins, but Scotland is now divided
what will be the fall out from that I wonder

Rioting. Complete breakdown of society. The police stretched thin. The British will send in the army to strengthen the police force. Then you'll have 30 years of occupation and unionist / nationalist paramilitaries... not.
 
Erm, just like every election manifesto ever written...? Pre-election promises aren't worth the paper they're written on.

There's nothing to stop Holyrood organising a second referendum if there's enough public support. If Scotland demands the promised new powers and they aren't delivered, that could well be the end result. I can't see No winning a second referendum under those circumstances - it would be too easy to dismiss Westminster's view as 'the same lies as last time'.

To be honest, I expect political and constitutional reform to remain hot topics all the way up to the general election. Labour and the Tories will offer minor changes that they likely won't deliver upon. The Lib Dems will offer significant changes, yet they'll know fine well they'll never be allowed to implement them. Fringe parties like UKIP will offer up all sorts of populist, crowd pleasing ideas that sound big, but ultimately aren't very workable.
 
There's nothing to stop Holyrood organising a second referendum if there's enough public support. If Scotland demands the promised new powers and they aren't delivered, that could well be the end result. I can't see No winning a second referendum under those circumstances - it would be too easy to dismiss Westminster's view as 'the same lies as last time'.

They can't have another referendum without permission from the UK govt, as far as I understand things. Which they won't get for many years (some people saying that they could try again in 15 years at the absolute earliest).

To be honest, I expect political and constitutional reform to remain hot topics all the way up to the general election. Labour and the Tories will offer minor changes that they likely won't deliver upon. The Lib Dems will offer significant changes, yet they'll know fine well they'll never be allowed to implement them. Fringe parties like UKIP will offer up all sorts of populist, crowd pleasing ideas that sound big, but ultimately aren't very workable.

That seems quite likely.
 
They can't have another referendum without permission from the UK govt, as far as I understand things. Which they won't get for many years (some people saying that they could try again in 15 years at the absolute earliest).

They can't hold another legally binding referendum on Scottish Independence without the support of Westminster. There's nothing to stop them organising a non-binding referendum. A Yes result from such a referendum wouldn't guarantee independence, but it would put Westminster in a difficult position.

Not that such an event is likely. Even the threat of it happening would be enough to make the government cave in to reasonable demands.
 
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Maybe SNP should have pushed for proportional representation before the vote and thereby given Scotland ~40%+ of independence. :p
 
Biohazards head must have exploded.
Good result. Shame more devolution will happen, but at least it looks like they will get kicked from voting for English laws.
 
They can't hold another legally binding referendum on Scottish Independence without the support of Westminster. There's nothing to stop them organising a non-binding referendum. A Yes result from such a referendum wouldn't guarantee independence, but it would put Westminster in a difficult position.

Not that such an event is likely. Even the threat of it happening would be enough to make the government cave in to reasonable demands.

They could do this but referendums are expensive and without agreement from Westminster it would seem unlikely that the Scottish government would be allowed to pay for it. The yes camp would need to find £ms to cover it itself.
 
How did someone pick no referendum for a generation. It would be many generation before another referendum. They are expensive, you can't just keep having them, till one party gets the required outcome.
 
Biohazards head must have exploded.
Good result. Shame more devolution will happen, but at least it looks like they will get kicked from voting for English laws.

Yip. Dunno what he was permabanned for I thought he was just suspended. Was kind of looking forward to seeing the reaction of Salmonds official spokesperson.
 
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