Poll: The GD Referendum – Scottish Independence

[Tefal]

I can see some logic in your point Tefal but I think that what the whole referendum issue has shown is that a lot of people want more local control over things. I'm not saying that it would make much difference though.

yeah but the local ones are just pathetically bad the smaller the government the more retarded it is.

if you ever go to your local council meetings you'd see that the only place people more petty are student politics.

"it's so vicious because the stakes are so low" or more properly "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."


notice how the more trivial the argument on here the more vitriolic the posting?

 

[FoxEye]

I'm not so sure the interests of the north are all that different, it's more a question of priorities. The regions feel they don't get their fair share of government spending, and that is probably true. If more money was sent to the regions to pay for infrastructure and so forth, I think things would be a lot more settled than they currently are.

Yarp. Take Cornwall for example. Despite the depravity being almost the highest in the UK, we still lose more in taxes than we get back in govt spending. It seems ridiculous, given how much we rely on EU grants (those grants are made available to the most depressed areas in the EU; Cornwall and parts of Wales both qualify).

 

[thep02]

Why all the negativity, I for one say to our scotch underlings "thanks for the oil dudes".

 

[Tefal]

Yarp. Take Cornwall for example. Despite the depravity being almost the highest in the UK,

errr

 

[Gilly]

I could care less.

 

[scorza]

Yarp. Take Cornwall for example. Despite the depravity being almost the highest in the UK, we still lose more in taxes than we get back in govt spending. It seems ridiculous, given how much we rely on EU grants (those grants are made available to the most depressed areas in the EU; Cornwall and parts of Wales both qualify).

Do you really mean depravity? or deprivation?

depravity
[ dɪˈpravɪti ]
noun

moral corruption; wickedness:
"a tale of depravity hard to credit"
synonyms: corruption · corruptness · vice · perversion · pervertedness ·
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the innate corruption of human nature, due to original sin.
synonyms: sin · sinfulness · ungodliness · unrighteousness · profanity ·
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deprivation
[ dɛprɪˈveɪʃ(ə)n ]
noun

the damaging lack of material benefits considered to be basic necessities in a society:
"low wages mean that 3.75 million people suffer serious deprivation"
synonyms: poverty · impoverishment · penury · privation · hardship ·
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the lack or denial of something considered to be a necessity:
"sleep deprivation"

FYI I have relatives in Cornwall and I wholeheartedly agree (if you meant deprivation).

 

[UTmaniac]

I could care less.

So you car quite a lot?

Or you couldn't care less?

 

[Gilly]

So you car quite a lot?

Or you couldn't care less?

Neither :/

 

[novaenough]

yeah but the local ones are just pathetically bad the smaller the government the more retarded it is.

if you ever go to your local council meetings you'd see that the only place people more petty are student poltitics.

"it's so vicious because the stakes are so low" or more properly "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."


notice how the more trivial the argument on here the more vitriolic the posting?

I work for the council and have been to and spoken at meetings, i know exactly what you mean.
I still think that we need to find a way of having 'local' control or maybe just a better way of feeding into a regional system. There seems to be a disconnect between people and politics, and the having no input/making no difference thing, I honestly don't know how to fix it but I think it needs looked at and some form of change should happen.
Maybe part of the problem is people being more selfish. Not wanting to support others, whether in the same: street, town, county, country, or planet. Not my problem, nothing to do with me attitude that I think is more common than before.

 

[Minstadave]

I hope they bill the scots for this farce.

 

[Tefal]

I work for the council and have been to and spoken at meetings, i know exactly what you mean.
I still think that we need to find a way of having 'local' control or maybe just a better way of feeding into a regional system. There seems to be a disconnect between people and politics, and the having no input/making no difference thing, I honestly don't know how to fix it but I think it needs looked at and some form of change should happen.
Maybe part of the problem is people being more selfish. Not wanting to support others, whether in the same: street, town, county, country, or planet. Not my problem, nothing to do with me attitude that I think is more common than before.

ye its very difficult as most people cant be arsed at a small level as its not important and the few that can do it purely because they have their own agenda (or personality disorder) to push so it never lines up right.

 

[campbell]

I hope they bill the scots for this farce.

I hope so too. I want to see scotland stripped bare.

 

[FoxEye]

I hope so too. I want to see scotland stripped bare.

Just lift up their kilts

 

[Mynight]

I hope so too. I want to see scotland stripped bare.

Surely you just have to look around then? .

 

[crunchman]

can we not just scrap the Welsh Assembly?

You realise with these devoled parliaments we now have

1 MP
1 MEP
1 WAM

for every fricking county.

all on silly money. as well as doubling up all he commissioners etc.

who all incidentally demand the same pay cheque as their English counterparts so the English one may be looking after the needs of 60+million people the welsh one only 3 but he gets the same money an usually just does what the other one does anyway.

scrap it all i say.

Rub off the borders, ditch the names and rename the whole ****ing island to Great Britain.

No England, no Wales, no Scotland, no United Kingdom just Great Britain.

Despite living in a very welsh national area, Plaid rule .etc

I 100% agree with you!

In fact all these nationals have been putting up "pledleiswch ie"..."vote yes" hoping that scotland would go independent so we can too

 

[Raymond Lin]

The interests of northern England are totally different to the interests of the south west, or the south east.

Perhaps we need more power at the county/regional level.

Who's for Cornish independence?

Look at the size of Texas

http://mapfight.appspot.com/gb-vs-texas/united-kingdom-texas-us-size-comparison

Can we not just get along in this tiny island? You don't see people in North Texas wanting to have their own state. I find it mind boggling that people use distance from Westminster as a reason for independence.

 

[Tefal]

Despite living in a very welsh national area, Plaid rule .etc

I 100% agree with you!

In fact all these nationals have been putting up "pledleiswch ie"..."vote yes" hoping that scotland would go independent so we can too

any time someone from Plaid speaks I end up wanting to hurt them

 

[Tefal]

Look at the size of Texas

http://mapfight.appspot.com/gb-vs-texas/united-kingdom-texas-us-size-comparison

Can we not just get along in this tiny island? You don't see people in North Texas wanting to have their own state. I find it mind boggling that people use distance from Westminster as a reason for independence.

interestingly if you remove scotland the rUK is about the same size as the stae of new yourk

 

[postmanfw]

Put the 1.6 million (yes) against the 2 million (noooo) in armed battle and see who wins then

Hope over fear.

 

[Mynight]

Put the 1.6 million (yes) against the 2 million (noooo) in armed battle and see who wins then

Hope over fear.

Well hope would win over fear and the no vote has already won so seems it's only useful in culling a few. Scotland can then redistribute the wealth of the losers .