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The i5-12600 is the star of the 12th gen show - 69 degrees even when clocked at 5ghz

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Temps here with an air cooler ( Noctua NH-U14S) + full review:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-12600/21.html

Only issue is - No multiplier overclocking.

Here's an interesting quote from this review "I'm quite positive that all motherboard vendors are looking into bringing this capability [B-Clocking] to their whole lineup, possibly on cheaper B660 motherboards, too. On the other hand, I'm just as sure Intel is looking into methods to block this capability through BIOS updates."

Unfortunately it does somewhat highlight the limits of Intel's current 10nm desktop CPUs - They couldn't manage this on 8 P-cores (the ones that you actually want to use :p).

Maybe next time Intel (13th gen?).

EDIT - It does seem that it's not quite stable at 5ghz, but 4.9ghz was stable with just 1.137v.

So yeah, Intel still struggling with 5ghz lol.

Does anyone know if Asus' Multi Core Enhancement (MCE) would allow users to clock the 12600 at 4.8ghz on all cores?
 
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I will try it on my MSI Z690 Edge's equivalent setting over the weekend and get back to you. I am hoping so. It's a good cpu from my experience so far and "only" cost me £205 due to a offer the retailer had (got a tenner off the mobo as well).
 
nice.

It does seem like a very good CPU for the money, especially compared to Zen 3.

If not, maybe MSI will be able to allow B-clocking via a firmware update on your shiny new motherboard?

I hope Intel abandons their silly distinction between locked and unlocked parts for the 13th generation, or they are going to get destroyed by Zen 4, which seems to be engineered for 5ghz on all cores.
 
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g67575 said:
Temps here with an air cooler ( Noctua NH-U14S) + full review:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-12600/21.html

Only issue is - No multiplier overclocking.

Here's an interesting quote from this review "I'm quite positive that all motherboard vendors are looking into bringing this capability [B-Clocking] to their whole lineup, possibly on cheaper B660 motherboards, too. On the other hand, I'm just as sure Intel is looking into methods to block this capability through BIOS updates."

Unfortunately it does somewhat highlight the limits of Intel's current 10nm desktop CPUs - They couldn't manage this on 8 P-cores (the ones that you actually want to use :p).

Maybe next time Intel (13th gen?).

EDIT - It does seem that it's not quite stable at 5ghz, but 4.9ghz was stable with just 1.137v.

So yeah, Intel still struggling with 5ghz lol.
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Talking crap as usual. My 12600k does 5.1 p core 4 e core. This is using a noctua d14 and a gaming x.
 
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From what I can see MSI doesn't have any setting similar to MCE on Asus and Gigabyte boards so I was unable to test this out. What I will do during the week when I have time is try by adjusting the multiplier. I know you used to be able to set locked cpu's using the multiplier so I will see if you still can. I also want to have a play with my memory settings but it's a pity we don't have something similar to Ryzen dram calculator for Intel builds.
 
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From what I can see MSI doesn't have any setting similar to MCE on Asus and Gigabyte boards so I was unable to test this out. What I will do during the week when I have time is try by adjusting the multiplier. I know you used to be able to set locked cpu's using the multiplier so I will see if you still can. I also want to have a play with my memory settings but it's a pity we don't have something similar to Ryzen dram calculator for Intel builds.
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Have a look in the advanced CPU settings for a feature called enhanced turbo which should be the msi equivalent of MCE.
 
Couldn't find Enhanced Turbo anywhere in the bios so maybe it's not present when a locked cpu is detected or may arrive in a future bios release. That makes the next bit strange though because using the multiplier I can set it to 48x and all cores will run at 4.8ghz so that's a nice bonus.
 
Very cool! Run CPUz benchmark and to see if the multipliers core on each core maintain 4.8ghz under load for a few minutes (can see this using tools like Speccy). Then, try more intensive tasks like games or other benchmarks.

Do you reckon forcing up the core multipliers to 4.8Ghz is only possible on higher end boards, or B660 boards as well?

Any news about what turbo boost frequencies were possible under load?
 
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yeah sure, have fun with those economy cores :p

How come the unlocked parts can't reach 5ghz then? Nor is this comfortably achievable on CPUs with 8-P cores, without running at very high temps.

In general, I find the temps too damn high on the parts with E-cores when overclocked (all things being equal):
https://tpucdn.com/review/intel-core-i5-12600k-alder-lake-12th-gen/images/cpu-temperature.png
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What are you talking about? My 12900k can easily reach 5ghz on a single tower small air cooler running cinebench r23 at 70C. Its not even a great bin, pretty average at 83 sp
 
Doesn't seem to be what reviewers e.g. (techpowerup) are getting, you must have a fairly high end cooler. I assume you mean 5ghz on all P-cores +stability tested?
 
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Doesn't seem to be what reviewers e.g. (techpowerup) are getting, you must have a fairly high end cooler. I assume you mean 5ghz on all P-cores +stability tested?
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Yeah, reviewers numbers seem very odd to me. I have the u12a and was kinda afraid id need a new cooler with the 12900k, turns out its absolutely fine. Everything at stock with 4095 power limits it hits 76c peak at cbr23. Undervolted its at 65c.

@RavenXXX2 Here you go, undervolted @ 4.9ghz

https://ibb.co/KhB5723
 
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Still, I think most people will want the 12600, as it should definitely run well on most air coolers.
 
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I checked the price on that cooler. Fair enough, maybe it is doable with the very best air coolers.

Looks like a £60-£70 air cooler isn't gonna cut it.
 
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I checked the price on that cooler. Fair enough, maybe it is doable with the very best air coolers.

Looks like a £60-£70 air cooler isn't gonna cut it.
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Nah, there are better coolers than the u12 for 60 euros. It costs a lot cause it has really good performance in a small size factor. If you dont care about the size with 60 euros (and i guess pounds) you could get an ak620 or an assassin 3.
 
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