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The Labour Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by q974739, Nov 25, 2015.

  1. Faustus

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    I think if you look at Corbyn's actions and causes over decades, he demonstrates a strong bias towards Muslims and at best a distinct indifference to the Jewish community. That's the way he always comes across to me at least.
     
  2. SPG

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    Well i guess that depends on how old you are and the centerground is still selling off all national assests, privatisation of pretty much everthing apart from the NHS as that would be a labour outcry.....

    Its failed, privatisation has failed everyone. Change is needed not the same policys of the the past 40 years.

    Labour used to mean something, not Tory in disguise.
     
  3. JeditOjanen

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    Current polling has Labour leading by four points.
     
  4. Dolph

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  5. Faustus

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    Retired plus shareholder of many of those assets and firm Blairite i.e. Labour that has a chance of electoral success unlike the current socialist workers party.
     
  6. doodah

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    Fiona Onasanya really isn't giving up. Her claims would sound slightly genuine if she hadn't changed her story from 'wasn't in the car/driving' to 'I may have been a passenger' between the trials.
     
  7. SPG

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    Says it all really, YOU benefited from the sales on national assets that belongs to everyone. Not everyone can afford shares in XYZ unless they were lucky enough to have a private pension. Tory in disguise is not LABOUR, Blair grabbed the power nothing more, we also ended up in unjust War which has turned the world upside down for 20 years, sold off all our GOLD at rock bottom prices all in name of NEW LABOUR and the centerground.
     
  8. Faustus

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    Oh yea, gold, forgot about that, bought some of that too. You appear to believe that even if working people can afford to they shouldn't share in the wealth of the country. I hear this a lot and it's something I've never really understood the logic of.
     
  9. Bluntwrapped

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    You know things are bad when you deliberately opt out of party donations when becoming a member of Unite :(
     
  10. SPG

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    Ahh the crux of it then, personnel wealth before the benefit and expense of all, seems very TORY to me tbh.
     
  11. Lartyconshayo

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  12. Dolph

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  13. Lartyconshayo

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  14. Dolph

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  15. Faustus

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    Or the Labour mantra, what's mine is mine and what's yours is mine too.
     
  16. D.P.

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  17. JeditOjanen

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    New ComRes poll is showing Labour 35 Tory 34, but that poll has the Tiggers in. Looks like they're not stealing Labour votes as much as they're picking up "Anyone But Corbyn" liberals from the Tories.
     
  18. Mr Jack

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    Tiggers still aren't a party. A snap GE would likely completely shoot their pooch. In reality their vote share will be far lower than polls suggest because most voters won't have the option of voting Tigger.

    Also, it doesn't make a shred of difference whether the poll showing Labour head is an outlier or not; it'll still scare May.
     
  19. JeditOjanen

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    Their vote share matters in the constituencies they're in. Push 11 Labour constituencies to the Tories, May would have a majority right now. Push 11 Tory constituencies to Labour, and there would be no options for government other than a Lab/LD/SNP coalition - and both parties would refuse to go into coalition for anything less than cancelling Brexit.
     
  20. Tony Edwards

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    Well this is going to upset a lot of the usual suspects.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/mar/20/labour-formally-adopts-definition-islamophobia
    Hopefully the other parties will follow suit quicker than the Labour IHRA controversy. However if they dont Im sure no one will mind and Im sure the press outcry wont be as widespread as Labours IHRA coverage. It is only muslims after all.