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The Labour Party: Where do we go from here?

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by q974739, Nov 25, 2015.

  1. Mr Jack

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    To be fair to her, the comment about "Zionist Slave Masters" was at the end of the text above an unobjectionable video (on Facebook, not Twitter, btw). She probably liked the video without reading the text attached too closely.

    Labour's hopes in Peterborough are basically for a Tory exodus to the Brexit Party letting them come through the middle.
     
  2. RedvGreen

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    Plus BXP candidates got shedload of votes despite being raving homophobic sexist bigots without a clue of Politics... Labour will be fine...
     
  3. JeditOjanen

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    I heard that the Labour candidate had withdrawn.
     
  4. jimjamuk

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    Are they putting someone else up?? or is it too late or a lost cause at this point?
     
  5. JeditOjanen

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    It would be too late. Candidacies have to be declared a few weeks before the election.

    Apparently she hasn't stood down, but the party isn't really supporting her either.
     
  6. jimjamuk

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    So whats the deal with Corbyn and Trump

    Secretly wants to meet up and be the statesman or PM in waiting whilst publicly doing what he does best protesting in the street. Does he not realise if he wants to win a GE and finds himself in that PM role hes got to deal with these people.
     
  7. Dolph

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    Given the people and regimes corbyn has stood shoulder to shoulder with as friends (hamas, the ira, Iran etc etc) either his behaviour now pathetic or his justification for solidarity with terrorists and human rights abusers were lies
     
  8. StriderX

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    It's not unusual at all for Corbyn, he's always advocated discussion as a means to resolution, he just didn't want to involve himself in the blatant pageantry of serving King Trump when the country is in disaster. Atleast that's a hopeful scenario.

    But hey ho.
     
  9. Dolph

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    Giving corbyn the benefit of the doubt four years ago might have been justified. It has since become simply apologia and misdirection.
     
  10. StriderX

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    Regardless it is his MO and consistently for decades, not that it would actually do anything as Trump is a bag of ***** unless you compliment him/agree with him.
     
  11. Mr Jack

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    I'm generally in favour of people protesting Trump's visit but Corbyn needs to be behaving like a PM in waiting, instead he's whipping up his base like he's still an irrelevant backbencher. As usual, he's failed to grow into his new role.
     
  12. Dolph

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    It is true that he has long preferred associating with terrorists and murderers than anyone associated with America certainly. It has never mattered how abhorrent the individual or regime is, corbyn would support it if anti American.

    As such, the fact that the current president is trump is probably irrelevant.
     
  13. Murphy

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    And that's fair enough but any grownup knows sometimes you have to do things you don't like if you desire a particular outcome, Corbyn behaves more like a petulant child than a PM in waiting, advocated discussion as a means to a resolution is a laudable ideal but if you set limits on who, where, and what you're willing to discuss it just comes across as being sanctimonious.
     
  14. The_Abyss

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    Why didn't he just say that then?
     
  15. StriderX

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    Cause he's a tit?
     
  16. The_Abyss

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    That might be it!
     
  17. RDM

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    Didn't he also attend the State Banquet for the Chinese Premier? So somewhat inconsistent in his principles.
     
  18. StriderX

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    Ahh, but you see the Chinese have pretty much bought the UK government considering what's been going on, not attending that would have been really naughty.

    Regardless that was before the concentration camps came to light, if he did it again with Pooh bear emperor Xi, i would judge him far more harshly than his Trump avoidance. But the fact is we literally work (saying nothing about it is approval in my eye's, continuing to sell them **** is helping) Saudi's to help kill defenceless children on buses, are we really one to judge at this point?
     
  19. RDM

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    It isn't really about what the Government is and isn't doing. It is about the supposedly principled stance by Corbyn. His principles seem to change depending on the target. He seem to constantly be stuck in "anti-imperialist protestor" mode rather than "potential Prime Minister" mode.
     
  20. StriderX

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    I mean... Trump got elected on that ticket.