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sigma said:
I dunno, something clearly isn't working is it.
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No, its not but he can only do so much. Yesterday for example. Onana makes an absolute howler for the first goal. He is questionable for the second and Dorgu makes a stupid mistake and gets sent off.

This has happened god knows how many times since he took over. Players not finishing chances. Shocking mistakes leading to goals.

The players confidence is clearly low. You could see how up and down they were yesterday and how much the fighting win meant to them. That wouldn't be the case in a team that wasn't struggling for confidence.

Amorim needs some key players. Dorgu was already making a difference. Fundamentally if we want to see better play and results then he needs to change to 4 at the back and a more classic formation in the short term. Hes not going to do that and we don't really want him to.

Our best forward is injured (Amad). One of the 10s that was looking good for him is injured (Mount). One of our better CBs that was also contributing offensively is done for the season (Martinez). Our best LCB/LWB option is unavailable (Shaw). One of our better midfielders is injured (Mainoo). Our most prolific forward is on loan and will be moved on in the summer (Rashford)

Its a complete mess right now and getting to the summer and sorting as much of that out as possible is all he can do. If we are looking at the same situation next March then he will be sacked at the end of the season and rightly so.
 
Alright, alright, you've convinced me, I'll wait and see what happens... :o

What's the realistic expectation for next season top 10?
 
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fez said:
No, its not but he can only do so much. Yesterday for example. Onana makes an absolute howler for the first goal. He is questionable for the second and Dorgu makes a stupid mistake and gets sent off.

This has happened god knows how many times since he took over. Players not finishing chances. Shocking mistakes leading to goals.

The players confidence is clearly low. You could see how up and down they were yesterday and how much the fighting win meant to them. That wouldn't be the case in a team that wasn't struggling for confidence.

Amorim needs some key players. Dorgu was already making a difference. Fundamentally if we want to see better play and results then he needs to change to 4 at the back and a more classic formation in the short term. Hes not going to do that and we don't really want him to.

Our best forward is injured (Amad). One of the 10s that was looking good for him is injured (Mount). One of our better CBs that was also contributing offensively is done for the season (Martinez). Our best LCB/LWB option is unavailable (Shaw). One of our better midfielders is injured (Mainoo). Our most prolific forward is on loan and will be moved on in the summer (Rashford)

Its a complete mess right now and getting to the summer and sorting as much of that out as possible is all he can do. If we are looking at the same situation next March then he will be sacked at the end of the season and rightly so.
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It is fair to say that EtH experienced a lot of the same/similar issues (recruitment aside). Would you agree?
 
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fez said:
If
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Whole lotta if’s needed to get our squad to 6. I don’t disagree though that maybe if all were actually pulling their weight we’d be up there (not challenging but up among the cl places or thereabouts) but they all haven’t so ultimately, imo, they aren’t a top 6 squad. Obviously it’s all a matter of opinion and others will feel differently but I doubt anyone gets this squad regularly into the top 6.
 
Jimbeam3678 said:
Have people seen latest episode of The Overlap? 55 mins Neville and Keane don’t hold back with their thoughts.
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Somewhat ironically I get a bit bored of them moaning :cry: if it was more structured I could listen but they end up just bouncing around. If there are any particularly interesting insights please do share.
 
Thekwango said:
Whole lotta if’s needed to get our squad to 6. I don’t disagree though that maybe if all were actually pulling their weight we’d be up there (not challenging but up among the cl places or thereabouts) but they all haven’t so ultimately, imo, they aren’t a top 6 squad. Obviously it’s all a matter of opinion and others will feel differently but I doubt anyone gets this squad regularly into the top 6.
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Top 10 the target??
 
sigma said:
Top 10 the target??
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I’d be happy with that. I’d love us to be battling for top a 4 or 6 spot next season but we need to be realistic - this squad is awful, for the most part, and a major overhaul is needed. That ain’t gonna be happening with a single summer transfer window.
Lets get Amorim a few players that suit what he wants to do and see how things go from there. Too many Man U fans thinking we should still be knocking about round the top of the table just because of past glories. Reminds me of Liverpool fans back in the 90’s/early 00’s.
 
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