The new military landrover replacement "The Hawkei"

Orcish-Horde · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:06

KaHn said:
I love how people jump in to say "It won't stand up to a blast".

Can I ask are you an engineer with experience in blast mechanics? Or have you been given information on the type of materials to be used to build this, the picture there is a design sketch for the newspapers/tender and I do think that before this will be implimented they will be tested to destruction.

KaHn

Well the British army has done the whole armoured car thing in the past and dropped them for APCs, AFVs and helicopters. Its a fools game and am realy suprised that they are still playing it. You don't need to be an engineer to figure out that the more armoured a target the more explosives you use.

clv101 · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:14

Eddie182 said:
They are already using 500lb and upwards IEDs...

I've often wondered where they get the explosives from? Do they make them locally or have a way of importing/smuggling them in?

daz · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:14

cheets64 said:
Wont the Taliban just use more powerful IEDs? Seen some vids of IEDs going off and they just tear everything apart.

The shaped charges that some of them are using can go through light tank armour at close range.

Tefal · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:22

clv101 said:
I've often wondered where they get the explosives from? Do they make them locally or have a way of importing/smuggling them in?

Old artillery shells.

You can get the last regime made sure plenty where stashed away for the insurgency.

Orcish-Horde · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:27

clv101 said:
I've often wondered where they get the explosives from? Do they make them locally or have a way of importing/smuggling them in?

A small high grade explosive booster charge that sets of a large poor grade explosive, fertilizer fuel mix, flour, old shells, failed air strike munitions. They can use all sorts.

cupidstunt · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:31

Tefal said:
isn't that the Australians with the bush master?

(wit the storage things on the sides removed to show hull)

Although this thing seems like it's designed for a different role, the ones with the V shaped hull are heavily armoured big and not as fast iirc.

I think this is meant to be more in line with the humvee/landrover

Looks like a giant sized heavily armoured Reliant Robin

NickK · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:41

clv101 said:
I've often wondered where they get the explosives from? Do they make them locally or have a way of importing/smuggling them in?

The arms manufacturers make the explosives and offensive systems and charge money for it. The arms manufacturers make the defensive systems and charge money for it.

Anyone see the obvious?

bledd · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:46

I don't know anything about IED's, but can't they just use a flail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_flail

Sankari · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:51

I can't wait to see how these things handle the Chelsea school run.

Squark · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:52

Take the top off and it looks not to dissimilar to a Halo warthog

Cosimo · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:52

Evangelion said:
I can't wait to see how these things handle the Chelsea school run.

Probably extremely effectively but the road tax may be a little high.

Orcish-Horde · 7 Oct 2009 at 14:55

No they are used for landmines layed as a minefield which are set of by pressure, IEDs are normaly set of by command wire or wirelessly. Some of the smaller more random IED are pressure triggered, a flail would be impratical.

OldComputerGuy7 · 7 Oct 2009 at 15:43

Looks cool kinda reminds me of a armored Bowler Nemesis.

Sankari · 7 Oct 2009 at 16:46

mcast123 said:
The yanks had a better idea with the one with the V shaped hull for IEDs.

The one with a v-shaped hull is the Bushmaster, which was designed and built in Australia. We use them ourselves, and we also sell them to other countries (including the Yanks).

Australia developed the Bushmaster when it became clear that British Land Rovers were simply not good enough for the job.

mollymoo · 7 Oct 2009 at 16:55

Evangelion said:
The one with a v-shaped hull is the Bushmaster, which was designed and built in Australia. We use them ourselves, and we also sell them to other countries (including the Yanks).

Australia developed the Bushmaster when it became clear that British Land Rovers were simply not good enough for the job.

Bit confused are you Australian or do you come from the west midlands?

Jokester · 7 Oct 2009 at 17:01

bledd. said:
I don't know anything about IED's, but can't they just use a flail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_flail

I guess it would be kinda unpopular with the locals if you used that everytime you drove down their roads.

There's actually a company just along the road from me that builds those armoured mine clearance vehicles for the army etc, sometimes see them out in the field testing.

Edit:

In fact they're on wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aardvark_JSFU

BigglesPiP · 7 Oct 2009 at 17:08

The Mad Rapper said:
We have something similar don't we?

IVECO LMV?

Rroff · 7 Oct 2009 at 17:10

bledd. said:
I don't know anything about IED's, but can't they just use a flail?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mine_flail

As the name suggests they are improvised and theres no pattern to the design/build - as above many are remote detonated, but they can use all kinds of trigger mechanisms... if they started using flails regularly the insurgents would just adjust the triggers for a slightly longer delay before detonation.

mollymoo · 7 Oct 2009 at 17:15

OldComputerGuy7 said:
Looks cool kinda reminds me of a armored Bowler Nemesis.

Thats what struck me when I saw it I actually thought it was an armoured version ............... maybe they pinched the idea \o/

Sankari · 7 Oct 2009 at 17:17

mollymoo said:
Bit confused are you Australian or do you come from the west midlands?

I am Australian. I came to the UK in 2004 and currently reside in the Widlands. I am flying back home to Australia next Wednesday.