The next step GTX 295/285 + ATI R775XT?

[Born_2_Kill_83]

We're nearly a month away till we'll be seeing the above new cards, which will have the market title this time round?

Which card are you guys going to be getting and what you trading in for it?

I wonder if the GTX285 will blow away the 4870X2 or will the GTX295 struggle

 

[-Aura-]

Couldn`t justify upgrading my 4870 1Gb Loowi. Handles everything I throw at it Will undoubtedly be way down the table in future benchmarks but hey, who cares

 

[LoadsaMoney]

R775's were fake, and the 285 is just an overclocked 280 on a smaller 55nm process so it uses less power, so not worth getting if you already have a 280, or a 260-216 for that matter, as those can just about match the 280's when overclocked.

Only other card coming is the 295 which is 2x 260-216's stuck together like the 9800 GX2, and that won't be worth getting either as its only coming out to take the speed crown back from ATi's 4870x2, so id expect it to cost a fortune, and be in a very limited quantity no doubt as well, as they won't make many of them if its just to get the speed crown back.

 

[Born_2_Kill_83]

R775's were fake, and the 285 is just an overclocked 280 on a smaller 55nm process so it uses less power, so not worth getting if you already have a 280, or a 260-216 for that matter, as those can just about match the 280's when overclocked.

Only other card coming is the 295 which is 2x 260-216's stuck together like the 9800 GX2, and that won't be worth getting either as its only coming out to take the speed crown back from ATi's 4870x2, so id expect it to cost a fortune, and be in a very limited quantity no doubt as well, as they won't make many of them if its just to get the speed crown back.

So should I get a 4870X2 now LoadsaMoney or wait?
Currently have CF4870 but the 512MB Ram cant cut the ammounts of AA+AF I use (1680*1050), the GTX295 does sound like itll be quite a lot faster

 

[EvilOne]

GTX295 wont be worth the £500+ they will charge for it.

 

[LoadsaMoney]

If it were me, id wait and see what the 285 is like, should be a cracking clocker on a 55nm process, and its also a single card, not long to wait for it now as well.

 

[drunkenmaster]

If it were me, id wait and see what the 285 is like, should be a cracking clocker on a 55nm process, and its also a single card, not long to wait for it now as well.

if they'd got the core working well at 55nm it would have been out for 3/4 months already. The fact its coming out so late, and even so late they've barely boosted the clocks and all rumours pointing to a very very very small power saving over 65nm I wouldn't be expecting anything fantastic in terms of overclocking myself over a current 65nm version.

As said the 295GTX will probably beat the 4870x2, but look for it to cost upwards of £550, quite probably more and be almost non available.

As for 512mb not being enough for full aa/af at 1680x1050, well, I've yet to see a game that can't use 16x aa/af at that res with 512mb ATi side and only maybe 1/2 games Nvidia have a problem with, and really no mainstream games. You'll gain next to nothing from upgrading to anything at this point Crossfire I would say is only barely good at anything below 1920x1200.

Frankly the 55nm Nvidia parts aren't going to be setting the world alight and considering they'll likely want to shift 65nm parts I would say 55nm won't represent any value whatsoever, just buy a 260/280 65nm when they get prices slashed to shift them out of stock.

Thats if you have to buy, and, you don't.

Upgrading or buying at this point before the 40nm stuff is out is pretty much a complete waste unless you can find a complete steal on something due to being EOL.

The 40nm Nvidia part, well, getting to 55nm was a hassel, we'll have to see how quickly they can get their 40nm part working and what upgrades they make to that core. Theoretically to cut costs and raise profits again they need to follow ATi with a small core, but I doubt we'll see such a shift so quickly. So bigger core, more SP's/TMU's and higher clock. AMD we're looking at a 25% shader boost, 20-25% TMU boost aswell as a 30% clock boost, might be 40-50% faster than the 4870 we have now.