I'm not going to go into any more specifics. What's done is done now. I've made mistakes, but I've come to realise that I liked her way more than she did me, went OTT expressing to her too soon, which triggered whatever commitment/emotional attachment issues she has from the past. She has admitted herself that she is a very selfish person, and thinks herself incapable of emotional attachment feelings, but she could just be spinning me a line of course. I don't think I should elaborate any further on here; I realise I will get a mauling from the "alpha" brigade for my naivety; lord knows I'm crap at this stuff, hence why I'm a regular in this thead!