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Poll: *** The official 2020 MacBook Air/13" MacBook Pro thread (it has the M1 chip and everything!) ***

Discussion in 'Apple Hardware' started by Feek, 10 Nov 2020.

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What 2020 Apple Silicon notebook have you ordered?

  1. MacBook Air

    61 vote(s)
    69.3%
  2. 13" MacBook Pro

    27 vote(s)
    30.7%
  1. Feek

    Commissario

    Joined: 16 Oct 2002

    Posts: 233,158

    Location: In the radio shack

    I'm a little bit excited to have ordered an M1 based MacBook Air to potentially replace my 12" MacBook.
     
  2. TS7

    Mobster

    Joined: 16 Feb 2010

    Posts: 2,554

    Location: East Mids

    I was massively conflicted given just how good the MBA seems to be but... after much (an hour) of deliberation I've just placed an order for the Pro - with student discount.

    This is probably not going to be a popular opinion but the main reason for going Pro over Air is the Touchbar. I had the 16" (which I returned because 1) it was too big and too overkill spec wise for my needs 2) there was a lot of talk about ARM) and I found the Touchbar really useful. In addition, better speakers, mic and fan will probably just make it that bit more futureproof for me (I replace every 5/6 years).

    If I already had a functioning laptop I would have held out for this 14" redesign coming at some point next year. Unfortunately, my laptop has completely given up so only have the work Dell tiding me over at the minute.
     
  3. Throrik

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 15 Sep 2009

    Posts: 2,028

    Location: Manchester

    I've gone for the Mac Mini this time round, but I am going to be closely watching the Air because of the fanless design.
     
  4. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,735

    Location: Milton Keynes

    Gone for the higher spec Air, 512 SSD 16 RAM. The fanless design sealed it for me. I’ll probably grab an LG ultra fine 5K at some point if it drives it smoothly (I suspect it will given the improved GPU).
     
  5. Feek

    Commissario

    Joined: 16 Oct 2002

    Posts: 233,158

    Location: In the radio shack

    Yup, yup and yup.
     
  6. wozza2k

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 23 Sep 2008

    Posts: 2,293

    Location: London

    Is no one worried the fanless air might overheat? I’m genuinely surprised by the uptake for the Air over the Pro so far.
     
  7. alex24

    Capodecina

    Joined: 1 Jan 2008

    Posts: 10,850

    You mean thermal throttle, right? I would say it’s certainly possible with extended high workloads, but I suspect if that’s your usage profile you’re probably not going for the Air over the MBP 13 (or waiting for a more powerful Apple chip in a iMac/Mac Pro or Mini).
     
  8. chef-borjan

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 4 Aug 2014

    Posts: 1,077

    I know it’s not competent comparable but the iPads don’t have fans and I do believe that for the vast majority of day to day workloads the M1 is going to do just fine without a fan.
     
  9. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,735

    Location: Milton Keynes

    Agreed, if you’re doing long compiles, exports, renders, then the air isn’t the one for you.
     
  10. b0rn2sk8

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 9 Mar 2003

    Posts: 8,808

    Temped by an Air, I need to replace a Surface Pro 3 and this would fit the bill. Bit unsure on the memory only being 8GB, I'll certainly be waiting for reviews and looking to buy early next year, my 5900X and a 3080 FE were just delivered :D.

    I wonder how the 8gb holds up with it being an SOC with a fast SSD, could be interesting.

    On the face of it though, looking very nice. That battery life and fanless design... nom. I wonder what they'll do int he iPad pro as it can obviously take a M1 chip based on this.

    EDIT: Super torn actually as a next gen iPad Pro would also do the job. If only the iPad pro has MacOS, it would be an instant buy (with a magic keyboard of course...).
     
  11. Feek

    Commissario

    Joined: 16 Oct 2002

    Posts: 233,158

    Location: In the radio shack

    I cancelled the order I made a couple of minutes after the presentation and re-ordered using my wife's discount link which took nearly £90 off. It's not quite educational discount but it's better than nothing and the delivery date is unchanged from the 25th November.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Pez

    Mobster

    Joined: 20 Oct 2002

    Posts: 4,968

    Location: Warwickshire

    Ordered the Air with 16gb/256gb using employee discount scheme, can’t wait... replaces a 2013 11” Air with 4gb RAM :D
     
  13. crazy8s

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 29 Jul 2011

    Posts: 1,235

    Tempted to get this as been wanting to downsize for a while. I don't use my PC for much anymore other than browsing, streaming and Tableau.

    Will wait for reviews.
     
  14. fez

    Capodecina

    Joined: 22 Aug 2008

    Posts: 17,211

    Location: Tunbridge Wells

    Not sure if they covered this but what is the difference between all the different models with regards to the M1 chip. Are they clocked differently?

    I assume not as the a series are all identical and the only differentiator is the X version in the iPad pros as far as I know.

    Edit: Just found out.

    Basically, the low end air has only 7 cores instead of 8 (binning the lower quality processors) and will likely suffer a bit from thermal throttling. The next model up air doesn't have this however. The air has a smaller battery, less bright screen, no cooling fan and no touchbar. Beyond that, they are all identical.
     
    Last edited: 11 Nov 2020
  15. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,735

    Location: Milton Keynes

    The M1 in the Pro will have a higher TDP due to the active cooling so should give better performance.
     
  16. wozza2k

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 23 Sep 2008

    Posts: 2,293

    Location: London

    Hmm I guess I'm really out of touch with the tech (currently on a 2013 MBP). Got me thinking maybe the new MBA would cut it for me since I'm coping with the MBP and the only thing extra I'm likely to mess around with going forward is Lightroom which I don't think I'll be a heavy user.
     
  17. syke

    Capodecina

    Joined: 18 Feb 2006

    Posts: 10,584

    I've got the 2019 13" 2.4 i5 MBP and the MBA's are quite tempting, may wait and see how people find them initially. Fanless definitely an interest..
     
  18. Throrik

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 15 Sep 2009

    Posts: 2,028

    Location: Manchester

    Let's be honest most people aren't heavy users - they may think they are and always want to overspec but a good majority of people aren't going to tax their systems on a regular basis except for certain workloads. Large 4-8k Video Editing/Large VM Usage and massive CAD work isn't the norm I would say.
     
  19. HACO

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Oct 2009

    Posts: 2,238

    Would be interesting to see if the SSD is PCIe 4.0 (they said controller is 2x performance, and previous controllers were close to PCIe ceiling). Unified memory means the SSD likely doesn't have its own DRAM cache, and uses system memory.

    I didn't order one, but I'm excited for the teardown and benchmarks :D
     
  20. Feek

    Commissario

    Joined: 16 Oct 2002

    Posts: 233,158

    Location: In the radio shack

    Payment has just been taken for mine.