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Poll: *** The official 2020 MacBook Air/13" MacBook Pro thread (it has the M1 chip and everything!) ***

Discussion in 'Apple Hardware' started by Feek, 10 Nov 2020.

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What 2020 Apple Silicon notebook have you ordered?

  1. MacBook Air

    60 vote(s)
    69.0%
  2. 13" MacBook Pro

    27 vote(s)
    31.0%
  1. Throrik

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 15 Sep 2009

    Posts: 1,995

    Location: Manchester

    Don't suppose you could test Classic? Mine doesn't arrive until next week and I don't know if Classic is native M1.
     
  2. HACO

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Oct 2009

    Posts: 2,228

    From The Verge on thermal throttling:

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    In a 10-minute run, MBA and MBP are the same, but when you extend that to 30 minutes, the thermal throttling on the Air begins to show.

    So the choice between Air and Pro is simple: If you don't put it on sustained load for more than 10 minutes, the thermal capacity of the Air's design is capable of absorbing the heat while sustaining peak performance and you don't need the fan in the Macbook Pro.

    Assuming the display difference is negligible to you, I guess 99% of people should just pick the Air and use that price difference for more ram or SSD.
     
  3. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,680

    Location: Milton Keynes

    Honestly I am really impressed with the Air, having no noise from a fan is a dream while delivering silky smooth experience.
     
  4. Feek

    Commissario

    Joined: 16 Oct 2002

    Posts: 233,055

    Location: In the radio shack

    That's me. I doubt I've ever got this MB warm enough to throttle.
     
  5. chef-borjan

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 4 Aug 2014

    Posts: 1,076

    Not sure but how about Firewatch?

    Base MBA Tested in the opening segments of the game, on the High Graphics preset.

    1080p - 32FPS (external screen)
    1280 x 800 - 60 FPS
    2560 x 1600 - 20 FPS

    And to confirm... all it does it get warm. No where near hot.
     
  6. squerble

    Mobster

    Joined: 13 Apr 2009

    Posts: 4,762

    Location: UK

    I was really hoping this would be the case. I'm on a late-2013 MBP at the moment and I know it'll suffice for a couple more years yet. But, I like to plan ahead and seeing how capable the MacBook Air is now compared to the stunted Intel versions, it seems a no brainer that an Air will be the future purchase. Just wish there were 4 USBC/Thunderbolt ports - maybe by the time I come to buy a new one that'll have changed.
     
  7. chef-borjan

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 4 Aug 2014

    Posts: 1,076

    This graphic is really useful. After toying about with this MBA more, I think it will be absolutely perfect for work but seeing as the game performance is decent... if during an extended session I am going to drop maybe 25% of frames, I might as well upgrade to the MBP. These are all edge case scenarios, but since I am lucky enough to be able to choose either without much fuss... I might go for the Pro in the end. The final question is what is the fan like, how often does it come on, how loud etc etc. If its stays fanless for everything but a render or a gaming session, then I'm sold.

    But amazing value for the base MBA.
     
  8. Feek

    Commissario

    Joined: 16 Oct 2002

    Posts: 233,055

    Location: In the radio shack

    I've just had the shipped email with the tracking info that says it's in Eindhoven which is utter rubbish, it's not there yet. I can guarantee that the tracking won't change until Monday or Tuesday next week when it actually gets there.
     
  9. Pez

    Mobster

    Joined: 20 Oct 2002

    Posts: 4,967

    Location: Warwickshire

    Same, just got it for my Air with 16gb ram.
     
  10. Broken Hope

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 16 Jan 2003

    Posts: 9,435

    Location: Nottingham

  11. HACO

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Oct 2009

    Posts: 2,228

    The Verge said the fan never became audible unless they actively tried to make it go loud by running benchmarks for 15 minutes.
     
  12. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,680

    Location: Milton Keynes

    I don't have a subscription unfortunately, I just did a trial account on retail to test, out of curiosity.
     
  13. Spit

    Perma Banned

    Joined: 8 Nov 2003

    Posts: 6,743

    Location: Yorkshire

    When does the WOW 9.02 patch drop that supports M1?
     
  14. TheOracle

    Capodecina

    Joined: 30 Sep 2005

    Posts: 13,759

    I honestly don't know how Apple have managed this.
     
  15. Matrix

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 18 Oct 2002

    Posts: 1,977

    Location: Leicester

    Is it possible that anyone with the new air could try unity for me and see if it works / loads .


    Looking at getting one for my son the base model for homework and for him to use unity .

    But it was mentioned a few pages back it might not work with the M1 chip .

    Thank you.
     
  16. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,680

    Location: Milton Keynes

    I'd suggest posting here -> https://forums.macrumors.com/forums/apple-silicon-arm-macs.227/
     
  17. HACO

    Wise Guy

    Joined: 6 Oct 2009

    Posts: 2,228

    Yes.

    It's really only persistent year-on-year improvements while the competitors went to sleep for years and years (AMD 2007-2017 and Intel 2010-2020). Imagine if AMD hadn't had their resurgence and Intel was still selling us 4-core CPUs for £350. This M1 would have wiped the floor with them so bad. Hopefully this means better future products from both Intel and AMD (and ARM itself as well).
     
  18. LiE

    Capodecina

    Joined: 2 Aug 2005

    Posts: 22,680

    Location: Milton Keynes

    Decided to take a quick photo. RAW photo processed in Lightroom CC (not been updated for AS yet). It was pretty snappy. I decided to open Lightroom CC along side all the other apps to see how it manages memory (8GB). Swapping between Lightroom CC and Safari and selecting a dormant tab, there was a brief second where the page popped back in (I guess loading it from cache). Surprising good! No slow downs.

    [​IMG]
     
  19. englishpremier

    Sgarrista

    Joined: 15 Feb 2003

    Posts: 8,582

    Location: Europe

    Very impressed with what I've seen so far.

    The Air seems a better package than the Pro for me. Looking at the reviews and benchmarks it's going to be a beast compared to my 2015 13" Pro. The only real negative is the brightness. You need the Pro for 500 nits (which still isn't amazingly bright), but then the 2015 is less than 400 anyway.

    Definitely going to grab one of these once I'm back in civilisation.
     
  20. TS7

    Mobster

    Joined: 16 Feb 2010

    Posts: 2,553

    Location: East Mids

    Just making my way through the YouTube reviews and have found The Verge to be quite unusual. They literally sing praises as to how amazing both the Air and Pro are and then as you get towards the end it's almost like they've been told you have to add something negative and he states "the Touch Bar is horrific" - with no further context, a bit extreme. Then they proceed to hammer the webcam quality... yet the example they show is the guy sitting a dark room.....