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I'm hoping it won't make much of a difference in PVE stuff as it was already kinda crap there, due the pathetic amount of ammo you can carry for it. I unlocked the upgraded battery which gives it 56 rounds per magazine, you can burn through that so fast!

For PVP, I'm glad I got to use it and will try get a few more games in before the damage reduction, I managed a 7.something KD yesterday and you know where I usually sit in the scoreboard haha. Still think it's rather steep though!

I'd like to see different stats implemented for crucible and PVE stuff ideally!

I guess it's a fair amount of work to hold 2 sets of stats for weapons though.
 
What does it mean by Combatants? Cos I don't get why you wouldn't just up the base damage more?

I would *guess* combatants means other players in PvP. Buffing the Base damage isn't supposed to have an effect in Crucible (and possibly not much effect in Iron Banner either), therefore they had to change something else /shrug.
 
What's kill volume ? And what is defined as the playable area ? Is that to exclude all the ledges around the edge of the Templar arena ?



No idea

The notes aren't exactly clear.

Kill volume is the "Turn back" count down timer that kills you after 4 or 5 seconds.

I would assume if you try to jump onto these areas with the relic you will auto drop it.

All in all, those platforms do make that fight silly.....you can all just group up on one with the relic and snipe the boss without playing any of the mechanics in that Phase...as the the Relic holder can cleanse the debuff from Oracles and then push the shield off the boss over and over....the boss cant reach you with his attacks and the harpies cant touch you....cheating almost. :D
 
Kill volume is the "Turn back" count down timer that kills you after 4 or 5 seconds.

I would assume if you try to jump onto these areas with the relic you will auto drop it.

All in all, those platforms do make that fight silly.....you can all just group up on one with the relic and snipe the boss without playing any of the mechanics in that Phase...as the the Relic holder can cleanse the debuff from Oracles and then push the shield off the boss over and over....the boss cant reach you with his attacks and the harpies cant touch you....cheating almost. :D

Boss can definitely still hit you up in that spot. Plus the only "safe" spot up there needs your entire fireteam not to move otherwise you will push the relic holder over the edge. Doing that takes the relic with them and you automatically fail.

We definitely didn't have that happen last Friday night at all.
 
How do you play in these big matches against each other?

You need to keep playing.

Destiny won't let you into the Player Vs Player (PVP) mode (that resembles something more like other games multiplayer) until you've put enough time into the game.

You need to be rank 5 before it lets you play.
 
Nice to see the buffs/nerfs kick in but to be honest I don't think anyone will notice the changes unless you are crazy into PVP. At least when I've been playing the odd bit of Iron banner against people with Mythocasters I didn't find them remotely stronger than anyone else.

No doubt by the end of this week the Destiny community will be screaming about scouts being OP or fusion rifles dominating PVP :p It's always the same with these balance patches!

I don't understand why Bungie keep trying to hit the loot caves though as the majority of people who farm them already have 5+ exotics, multiple characters and stupidly high gear they also have nothing else to do apart from shoot a spawn in hope of getting sweet loot. I don't understand why players do it as the drop rate is terrible vs spending an hour doing Strikes etc but at least let them have their gaming experience :p

Shame about the RAID fix (but leaving the other cheese open...) but hopefully this means more peeps might be willing to try the decent way of killing the boss for the extra chest :D
 
I guess it's a fair amount of work to hold 2 sets of stats for weapons though.

they should just plain ban exotics in the crucible and leave them for Iron banner only.

Iron banner is the mode where you are supposed to get stomped on by players with better gear than you. Don't like this ? go player regular crucible mode where everything is equalized and a level 6 auto rifle is the same as a level 20 version of the same gun.

Problem solved, and it avoids nerfing guns in PVE in order to keep the PVP crowd happy.
 
Boss can definitely still hit you up in that spot. Plus the only "safe" spot up there needs your entire fireteam not to move otherwise you will push the relic holder over the edge. Doing that takes the relic with them and you automatically fail.

We definitely didn't have that happen last Friday night at all.

Well yes he can hit you...but if your team sits further back and the relic holder jumps up to take off his shield, he generally doesnt even fire at you.

Either way it makes the fight considerably easier than it should be :)
 
I think having areas you cant reach, even though they are there and you certainly can reach them is a stupid idea.
There is literally no point in having half the abilities in the skill tree for a warlock now because you dont need to glide anywhere, because everywhere you can glide to, has turn back now ******** on it.
Next patch will change Warlock glide distance so you HAVE to do the jumping puzzle rather than just jumping straight over the gap.
 
Next patch will change Warlock glide distance so you HAVE to do the jumping puzzle rather than just jumping straight over the gap.

I hope not as I love my Warlocks ability to glide over a massive distance.

One thing that suprised me is that the Hunter class doesn't appear to be able to jump anywhere near as high (to get certain loot chests). Either that or my friend hasn't unlocked all of her hunters abilities (she is at level 25/26 so I would have thought she was either there or close).
 
I hope not as I love my Warlocks ability to glide over a massive distance.

One thing that suprised me is that the Hunter class doesn't appear to be able to jump anywhere near as high (to get certain loot chests). Either that or my friend hasn't unlocked all of her hunters abilities (she is at level 25/26 so I would have thought she was either there or close).

Hunter gets double jump in Sunslinger....this is equal to Warlock glide in terms of distance jumping if you time it right (can skip the jumping puzzle in VOG this way) and also makes the jumping height a lot higher if you double jump and the peak of the 1st jump.
 
Hunter gets double jump in Sunslinger....this is equal to Warlock glide in terms of distance jumping if you time it right (can skip the jumping puzzle in VOG this way) and also makes the jumping height a lot higher if you double jump and the peak of the 1st jump.

Thanks :). Sounds like it could just be timing (for her) then (unless she hasn't unlocked it or is using a different attribute?!). It was confusing me as I had in my head that Hunter is "scout", Titan is "Tank" and Warlock is somewhat of a middle ground (Mage like).
 
No mention of the Atheon push trick? Strange

You need a specific class and chest armor to do that though.

You need Voidfang and two grenade sunsinger OR you need a team to go back and beat the oracles and do it with voidwalker.

The fact of the matter is though, they gave us these puzzles to beat and weve worked out a way to beat them with the game mechanics to hand, why now change them?
 
You know, none of these hot fixes have really affected me (yet), however these sort of significant changes are very dangerous and are starting to put me off playing the game.

I can only imagine how much effort people must have put in to get the Mythocast, only for it then to be nerfed liked that.

I've worked off my arse adding experience and materials to my autorifle primary and exotic shotgun, now both are getting nerfed.

How can I invest time in to this game when they can suddenly change something on a whim.

It's like the loot cave on Earth or now the fix on the Raid, they are actively stopping people experimenting and playing the game THEY want to play, only to force them and limit them to play in the confines of what Bungie want. Perhaps Bungie want to focus on adding more content or fixing the issues which do need more attention.

Not normally this vocal on these things, but I'm left unusually annoyed today.
 
Even as a titan you can jump the gap from the second platform as long as you have the increased control skill active

He doesnt even need to survive the fall so long as he crashes on to one of the ledges and dies, as a Warlock can revive him/her when they get there.
 
The fact of the matter is though, they gave us these puzzles to beat and weve worked out a way to beat them with the game mechanics to hand, why now change them?

You're seriously questioning why the developers are fixing exploits beyond the intended design of the levels?
 
they should just plain ban exotics in the crucible and leave them for Iron banner only.

Iron banner is the mode where you are supposed to get stomped on by players with better gear than you. Don't like this ? go player regular crucible mode where everything is equalized and a level 6 auto rifle is the same as a level 20 version of the same gun.

Problem solved, and it avoids nerfing guns in PVE in order to keep the PVP crowd happy.

The Crucible has always been a complete **** up tbh. Weapon/armour mods break the idea of balanced PvP completely.

I hope not as I love my Warlocks ability to glide over a massive distance.

One thing that suprised me is that the Hunter class doesn't appear to be able to jump anywhere near as high (to get certain loot chests). Either that or my friend hasn't unlocked all of her hunters abilities (she is at level 25/26 so I would have thought she was either there or close).

Hunter can't reach the same height as Titan/Warlock I've found. Easiest comparison is the Reaver Captain outside the Winters Run entrance. That huge ledge is extremely difficult to jump straight up over the railing as a Hunter, Warlock/Titan cruise over it.
 
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