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That is the most infuriating video I've seen for a long time. "We saw what players wanted, and that's what we're giving them". Erm, no? Where's the matchmaking? Where's the trading system? Where's the de-randomisation of loot so that rewards are linked to actual skill? Those are what players have been crying out for. Bungie haven't been listening. Which would be fine except they claim to have been listening.

I don't want matchmaking, I don't care too much about a trading system (too open to abuse IMO), and I don't overly care that the drops are random either. I just want more of a PvE focus from them instead of PvP.
 
That is the most infuriating video I've seen for a long time. "We saw what players wanted, and that's what we're giving them". Erm, no? Where's the matchmaking? Where's the trading system? Where's the de-randomisation of loot so that rewards are linked to actual skill? Those are what players have been crying out for. Bungie haven't been listening. Which would be fine except they claim to have been listening.
Having a trading system could ruin this game. If they do have one, it'd need to be heavily restricted. What I'd like to see is either of the following:

1) Trade for the same item, but with different perks/stats. e.g. trade Knucklehead Radar helmet with Strength, for the same helmet but with Discipline.
2) Trade with fireteam members only and only at the completion of a mission and only loot that was obtained during the mission.
 
Thing is though, people have been crying out for something.

The internet is awash for ideas as to how they can implement a system that lets you share your 5th drop of the same raid weapon with a friend, without a full on trading system.

People have talked about what other MMOs do with tokens instead of actual drops, that way instead of getting a 4th Praediths revenge you get a token so you can get the Corrective Measures which despite completing the raid 20 times still hasn't dropped for you etc..

But bungie have listenned to none of this, and given us all what we really want.

The ability to hear whiney kids in team chat on PVP :rolleyes:
 
Having a trading system could ruin this game

How could it ruin it any more than an NPC that sells random exotic loot for easily obtainable coins?

Today i've done the raid 3 times on hard, done 3 nightfalls and done the three weekly heroic missions. Thats an awful lot of loot chances. I got an icebreaker, a mythocloast, 2 raid helmets, raid gauntlets, raid boots, found verdict shotgun, praedyths revenge, the calming fusion rifle, the exotic warlock chest piece and a dr nope.

How many of those things did i have already? All of them. Was that a complete waste of time and effort? Well yes, it was. Now i have bits that my friends really wanted and i have nothing to do with them except dismantle them. It annoys me and it annoys the players who wanted these things, that saw me get the item yet again. I'd like to be able to trade with the friend that has 2 gallahorns or just give away one of my fatebringers to a friend that has been wanting it for a while and never has it drop. Hell even a big machine in the tower that takes in 5 weapons and smashes them all up and spits out another item of similar level in the hope i get something i'd like.

Any time a weapon is said to be too powerful it gets nerfed so that all guns are basically as balanced as the next or a hell of a lot lower and with the mass distibution system (aka xur) it wouldn't matter anyway how many other players had these things.

The only way this would ruin the game is that people would get the things they want, then wouldn't have a need to play the game anymore. Bungie want them to keep playing and keep buying the dlc's and doesn't want people to trade the game in at the shop so they don't want people to be able to trade.
 
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I wish there was a trading system, or an NPC or something in the tower where I could swap one of the five Suros Regimes or my now 2 Mythoclasts for some other exotic I want. It wouldn't hurt anyone. I'm also in favour of a fully fledged player trading system, there are probably countless players and groups of friends with many duplicates that would swap around and pass on, for another weapon or strange coins, or whatever else they wanted. Even selling crap back to Xur would help!

The levelling and progression system being tied to RNG is also a complete joke. I really hope they address it in the coming patches/DLC.
 
All they have to do is let us drop stuff on the ground so that other people can pick it up. You can't get black markets or any of the other bogeymen people are worried about from that. Or restrict it to trading between clan members by having a clan vault.
 
Shop bought Swarm is good, better than the raid machine gun IMO - not like you cant easily make up another 150 marks in 2 weeks, nor will they magically be harder to get post-DLC...

ps3ud0 :cool:
 
If you were in the PS clan then you need to rejoin as I just... obliterated everything to clean everything up and remove all the inactives in one fell swoop. If you are active then you can just rejoin :)
 
Yeah I couldn't find any option either. I've joined through the website. Hopefully get a team of 6 so we can get the clan trophy.
 
Shop bought Swarm is good, better than the raid machine gun IMO - not like you cant easily make up another 150 marks in 2 weeks, nor will they magically be harder to get post-DLC...

ps3ud0 :cool:

Corrective Measure ??? i have both CM and swarm and CM is miles better it rips anything to bits on the raid and its a beast in PVP but like yourself thats my opinion
 
So hard raid complete with both my 30s and managed to bag a helmet for my Titan, 2 speeders, Titan chest, Mythoclast and another VoC. Joy!

Need to do some farming and get them levelled up now. :D
 
All they have to do is let us drop stuff on the ground so that other people can pick it up. You can't get black markets or any of the other bogeymen people are worried about from that. Or restrict it to trading between clan members by having a clan vault.

It'd be pretty cool if you could drop an item, and a fire-team member would get an engram as opposed to that distinct item.
 
It'd be pretty cool if you could drop an item, and a fire-team member would get an engram as opposed to that distinct item.

No, that would suck. Can you imagine your mate gifting you a vex mythoclast and it turns into a thorn? Or working the other way, you'd get people trading thorns around over and over again until it turned into a mythoclast.
 
There needs to be a gifting system where you can send any of your items to a friend via the post master. Simply select the friend and send it to them, they receive it at the post master next time they're in the tower

You could then arrange trades etc. Can't see what the issue would be with that. Better than braking all these duplicates down when there's guys on our friends lists who are crying out for these items..
 
Not sure I'd like a post system, it would create a cash economy which is rarely good for a game. Maybe a 1:1 trade items of similar class/rarity.

On another note, my Gjallahorn is levelling up nicely...it's ridiculous! Dailies etc disappear in seconds in a hail of wolfpack rounds :D Muchos fun. Although I'll probably level up Hezen Vengeance after so I have the option of freeing up an exotic slot.
 
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