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What annoys me with Bungie is their incessant tune changing. Wasn't their last approach "all DLC will be free and will be funded by microtransactions"? How much DLC was actually funded by those microtransactions? Not much at all in fact.

When you've got companies like Blizzard who have said very openly that "you pay for the product and you pay for the dlc" (D3) or "you pay for the product and all dlc will be free forever"(Overwatch) it just annoys me that Bungie can't pick a business strategy and stick to it. That way we'd at least know where we stand.
 
I'd rather the content be paid if its anything like what TTK was as the free content was rubbish and not worth them releasing (apart from the april update).

The game needs more good/big DLC's to get the game going again even if they have to charge for them. Halloween and valentines updates do nothing for me I'm afraid, free or not.

The live team obviously have to work with existing content so why didn't they do free things that people wanted like bringing the old raids back etc baffles me.
 
Diddums said:
What annoys me with Bungie is their incessant tune changing. Wasn't their last approach "all DLC will be free and will be funded by microtransactions"? How much DLC was actually funded by those microtransactions? Not much at all in fact.

When you've got companies like Blizzard who have said very openly that "you pay for the product and you pay for the dlc" (D3) or "you pay for the product and all dlc will be free forever"(Overwatch) it just annoys me that Bungie can't pick a business strategy and stick to it. That way we'd at least know where we stand.
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I don't see why they have to pick and announce a strategy (I mean, what does it matter?), or why the strategy can't be a combination of the two, as it appears to be now.

Large DLC drops are paid for, smaller updates such as the Halloween, SRL, and April update are free. I don't see why that's a problem or annoying..
 
Having the free updates means we don't get the smaller paid for DLC's that have the raids/arena's attached to them, I think that's what was meant. I can see why they stopped that though as bungie wasn't big enough to sustain all that content.

There's a document somewhere detailing the contract bungie made with activision and they were supposed to deliver a lot more content than they ended up doing, all paid for.
It was supposed to be several small DLC's with something like a raid attached (well the first couple did) and then a big expansion every other year rotating with a new full game in the years there was no expansion (we should be on destiny 2 now).

They had all the internal trouble then though and are now playing catch up on everything so all that had to be sacrificed I suppose.

Either way I'll be getting the new DLC and can't wait to join in the raiding/nightfalls again.

Here is the contract PDF: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/357988/bungie-activision-contract.pdf
 
Diddums said:
What annoys me with Bungie is their incessant tune changing. Wasn't their last approach "all DLC will be free and will be funded by microtransactions"? How much DLC was actually funded by those microtransactions? Not much at all in fact.

When you've got companies like Blizzard who have said very openly that "you pay for the product and you pay for the dlc" (D3) or "you pay for the product and all dlc will be free forever"(Overwatch) it just annoys me that Bungie can't pick a business strategy and stick to it. That way we'd at least know where we stand.
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they never said anything that specific. They said

"With Taken King we are moving to a more event-based model — things like Festival of the Lost and Sparrow racing, which is our winter event, and then smaller events such as Iron Banner and Trials of Osiris every weekend. "Rather than doing these giant, monolithic DLC packs, this way everybody who's an owner of Taken King can enjoy these things."
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They never said, all DLC would be free.

redrooster303 said:
Having the free updates means we don't get the smaller paid for DLC's that have the raids/arena's attached to them, I think that's what was meant. I can see why they stopped that though as bungie wasn't big enough to sustain all that content.

There's a document somewhere detailing the contract bungie made with activision and they were supposed to deliver a lot more content than they ended up doing, all paid for.
It was supposed to be several small DLC's with something like a raid attached (well the first couple did) and then a big expansion every other year rotating with a new full game in the years there was no expansion (we should be on destiny 2 now).

They had all the internal trouble then though and are now playing catch up on everything so all that had to be sacrificed I suppose.

Either way I'll be getting the new DLC and can't wait to join in the raiding/nightfalls again.

Here is the contract PDF: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/357988/bungie-activision-contract.pdf
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I don't think its the case that bungie couldn't produce it. The negative reaction they got about what they did produce meant they changed the plan.

I don't think the community was going to be willing to buy a house of wolves / dark below sized expansion 3 times a year every year.
 
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They would be better off just releasing the raids as DLC a few times a year paid for and combining that with the free updates. Include the comet/large expansions once a year and jobs a gooden. For me anyway :)

Edit: Oh and they must have missed out on quite a lot of the multi million dollar bonuses mentioned in that contract from not keeping with said contract.
 
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With the storyline from the three expansions the single player campaign is huge. I'm playing through it again because my son bought it on XB1 and I am really enjoying it again. The Taken King story content is really good. I chose not to use the Spark and am levelling normally. I'm not into the raiding because I really don't have the time. The MP side of things is as enjoyable as ever.
 
redrooster303 said:
Edit: Oh and they must have missed out on quite a lot of the multi million dollar bonuses mentioned in that contract from not keeping with said contract.
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Not necessarily

Stuff like this can be negotiated upon. Especially if the contract is asking them to produce something both deem to be not popular with the audience and both think they should produce something else.
 
Interesting looking at my PVP stats after coming back from a 9 month absence.

First few games

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And then slightly later once I dusted off the cobwebs. Not amazing stats by any stretch, just thought it was interesting how bad I was when I came back after not playing for ages

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Played trials yesterday for the first time in 3 months. Think Playing overwatch made me aim better even if I wasn't as good with movement. Although I do play 2-3 games a week before I rage quit. Trials was typically, first 4-5 games where okay, your typically destiny lag then after that it was just red bar after red bar. Last game their red bar was so strong they DC'd one guy from are team, and a titan would teleport all over the screen and managed to get a Fist that hit me and my team mate while are orbs where at least 30-40 meters apart, like the orbs landing and the distance was insane.

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Fr0dders said:
Interesting looking at my PVP stats after coming back from a 9 month absence.
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Last night was an extreme of coming out on top and winning a Control map (think it was Rusted Lands) with a K/D of 2.21 to finishing last on the next map with a K/D of 0.5 :/

Still enjoying it though just not very consistent!

I've been out for about 9 months.
 
Beginning to rekindle my love of hand cannons in PvP, that is when there aren't insanely laggy people on the enemy team! ROI looks pretty interesting, very much looking forward to the artefacts and how they will mix it up in Crucible.
 
Since I never actually finished this - and have the first two DLC's - I've decided to reinstall it and finish it. I do like a big campaign and this game seems to have one, unlike most other stuff at the minute.
 
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