Poll: *The Official PlayStation (PS5/PS5 Pro) Thread*

Will you be buying a PS5 Pro on release?

  • Yes

    Votes: 52 14.9%

  • No (not at £700 Lol)

    Votes: 201 57.4%

  • No (other)

    Votes: 79 22.6%

  • Pancake

    Votes: 18 5.1%
  • Total voters
    350
Anyone else find it weird we still haven't seen a shot of the die or PCB for that matter of the PS5, like they're hiding something in combination with AMD with regards to what next gen RDNA2 is going to bring to the table?

All we've had is patents that show a PCB sandwiched between a cooling solution, we know it runs at far greater speeds even compared to the Xbox. We also know both Sony and Microsoft have bespoke solutions they've worked on with AMD. Going by that patent, the design of the console too. Could we be in for a shock?
 
Dimi said:
Anyone else find it weird we still haven't seen a shot of the die or PCB for that matter of the PS5, like they're hiding something in combination with AMD with regards to what next gen RDNA2 is going to bring to the table?

All we've had is patents that show a PCB sandwiched between a cooling solution, we know it runs at far greater speeds even compared to the Xbox. We also know both Sony and Microsoft have bespoke solutions they've worked on with AMD. Going by that patent, the design of the console too. Could we be in for a shock?
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Not really surprised, we got to see inside the ps4 about a week or so before it was released.
 
lovelyhead said:
That is the same conclusion I have come to.

I have a GTX 1080, Ryzen 3600 on a B450 motherboard and am running a 1440p, 144hz screen.

To simply achieve performance parity with a PS5 or XSX and I will need a GPU with RTX 2080 power, a new motherboard and 8 core cpu (which I only bought last year!), a new gamepad (because the new consoles come with one) and a fast NVME SSD. That is going to cost me £700 to upgrade even after selling my GPU, CPU and motherboard.

What is the point of spending all that money just to end up with the same as I could have if I bought a console?

I'll probably buy a XSX and keep that for a couple of years until spending £700 on PC hardware get's you a system that is much faster than a console.
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What about being able to play all the games in your steam library since you started pc gaming? Maybe even going back and experiencing that first game the got you into it again? You can't do that on the consoles. For me it's important to just have both
 
lovelyhead said:
That is the same conclusion I have come to.

I have a GTX 1080, Ryzen 3600 on a B450 motherboard and am running a 1440p, 144hz screen.

To simply achieve performance parity with a PS5 or XSX and I will need a GPU with RTX 2080 power, a new motherboard and 8 core cpu (which I only bought last year!), a new gamepad (because the new consoles come with one) and a fast NVME SSD. That is going to cost me £700 to upgrade even after selling my GPU, CPU and motherboard.

What is the point of spending all that money just to end up with the same as I could have if I bought a console?

I'll probably buy a XSX and keep that for a couple of years until spending £700 on PC hardware get's you a system that is much faster than a console.
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If there are no games that you love to play on PC that do not exist on console, or you have no PC games library, then yes I highly suggest getting a console. The PC has a ton of exclusive and unique content built up over many, many years that you simply cannot find on any console. It has a wealth of strategy, RPG, adventure and FPS games with stunning mods to improve or overhaul many of those games. If you are going to ignore all of that and use your PC like a console then obviously just buy a console and keep (but don't upgrade) your PC. It's literally a no-brainer in your case.

Your PC spec is fine to play modern games at 1440p with good details (without RT of course) for the next year or two and will play the back catalogue of games pretty much indefinitely. You have no need to upgrade it further for some time so just get the PS5 and be happy. :)
 
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azazl187 said:
What about being able to play all the games in your steam library since you started pc gaming? Maybe even going back and experiencing that first game the got you into it again? You can't do that on the consoles. For me it's important to just have both
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The only games I ever really go back to are the Risk of Rain games. Risk of Rain 1 can run on a potato so no worries there and Risk of Rain 2 has a good chance of being on the new consoles. Once I finish with a game I rarely go back.
 
Dimi said:
Anyone else find it weird we still haven't seen a shot of the die or PCB for that matter of the PS5, like they're hiding something in combination with AMD with regards to what next gen RDNA2 is going to bring to the table?
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Not at all, we've only just seen what the outside of the thing looks like.
 
Thought it was weirder when Microsoft done a tear down at there reveal of the series x

Real cards on the table your move Sony which they have took a while to reply to
 
RobertN said:
Thought it was weirder when Microsoft done a tear down at there reveal of the series x

Real cards on the table your move Sony which they have took a while to reply to
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Not really. Depends on how you look at it. If you can't compete on exclusives or interesting innovation you push the big spec and pure power. A budget TV maker is going to push the price and the size of the panel rather than anything that makes a good quality image because they fall down in that regard.
 
Sony will have their own schedule and they aren't going to let what a rival is doing change that.
The reveal of the DS5 controller was Sony's most watched video of the year, the game & external console look the most viewed.
They don't need to feed the information down at any rate that doesn't suit them. Sony have "won" every console cycle they have participated in, always outselling their rivals.

And the rush? We aren't seeing the device until Mid-November, those that are interested in the PS5 aren't suddenly going to change their mind if they don't like what they see inside the device.
 
stoofa said:
Sony will have their own schedule and they aren't going to let what a rival is doing change that.
The reveal of the DS5 controller was Sony's most watched video of the year, the game & external console look the most viewed.
They don't need to feed the information down at any rate that doesn't suit them. Sony have "won" every console cycle they have participated in, always outselling their rivals.

And the rush? We aren't seeing the device until Mid-November, those that are interested in the PS5 aren't suddenly going to change their mind if they don't like what they see inside the device.
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Except the PS3 era. Sony didn't do as well there.
 
steve5424 said:
Except the PS3 era. Sony didn't do as well there.
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Well, I thought this, but after almost typing a reply I looked it up and they sold more consoles, had a higher attach rate, all while the 360 had a 1 year head start. It was closer than other gens though, I agree, and of course the Wii sold more than MS and Sony by a huge margin.
 
Zefan said:
Well, I thought this, but after almost typing a reply I looked it up and they sold more consoles, had a higher attach rate, all while the 360 had a 1 year head start. It was closer than other gens though, I agree, and of course the Wii sold more than MS and Sony by a huge margin.
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VGChartz gives the 360 the higher attach rate, but not by much. Not sure whether this is more or less reliable than where you looked though..

I think the perception that the 360 sold better comes down to the influence of American gaming media in the UK. The 360 outsold the PS3 by ~20 million units stateside. That's a huge lead. And when you look at the biggest English-language gaming news sites, most of them are American.

What's interesting about regional figures is it highlights just how big a disaster the Xbox One has been. Take the US figures off, and the One has only sold ~17 million units. The sales drop in Europe from 360 to One is over 50%. And in Japan (where Xbox sales have never been strong, admittedly), the One is outsold by both the 360 and the original Xbox. "Other regions" also fell 50%, despite adding a bunch of new markets during the One's lifespan.

The extent to which Microsoft messed up with the Xbox One is quite incredible. But then it was developed and launched at a time when Microsoft seemed to jump from one disaster to the next. The latter years of Steve Ballmer's tenure as Microsoft CEO didn't exactly have many success stories :p When you look back at the concept which was announced at E3 2013, and then look at the console as it is now, the shift has been huge.

It'll be interesting to see how much Series X can turn things around. All of the right ingredients are there; Xbox is now its own division, is run by people who actually seems to love gaming, and evidently (given all of the studio purchases they've made over the past five years) the department has some serious money to spend. I'm quite looking forward to seeing what is announced next month.
 
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I think the main reason people think XB360 sold more is because it was in the lead for a most of the generation and SONY overtook very late on. I watched an interesting video about it on youtube a while back. Even with the higher price point the PS3 was losing Sony roughly $200 per unit at the start - no wonder they redesigned and dropped backwards compatibility!

Im hoping all these MS studio acquisitions can pump out some decent games. I have high hopes for Hellblade 2. I was surprised about how little SONY showed in the way of exclusives and games coming for launch. It will still sell out though, especially with limited quantities.
 
Games due to our expectations take a lot longer to develop these days, studios are putting out one maybe two AAA titles a generation currently, hell GTA has been completely absent this gen.

If HZD 2 comes early enough we may see one more close to the end of the generation.

TLOU 2 has taken an entire gen to release, only one real Uncharted this gen etc.

There were never going to be loads of exclusives shown for launch.
 
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