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The Post-Brexit Thread

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Irish_Tom, 1 Jan 2021.

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  1. do_ron_ron

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  2. And

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    It didn't make sense full stop.

     
  3. bayo000

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    If we reach that point it would stop most of the immigration and plenty of Brexiteers would consider it a job well done.
     
  4. Dj_Jestar

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  5. joey1211

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    Cue Boris tucking into another fish supper... "We have plenty of chips... hurrah!"
     
  6. Greebo

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    Pfft who needs these high skilled high paying jobs coming to the UK anyway?
     
  7. jpaul

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    pertinently, the nvidia ARM buy-out and the loss of jobs/IP is back in the news today - they propose to invest $100m in uk ...
    presumably with a immingration requirement.

    yes - just listened https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m00108gz 1:35 - guy is disingenuous, or an idiot - what kind of streamlined eu based immigration, to continue business, did he think brexit would provide;
    (forgot to look this am if the frozen turkey section in JS is empty)

    Pork farmers, yesterday r4am - suggested a import duty on cheaper labour produced products from abroad should be instituted ... or we need to restore a subsidy.
     
  8. Steampunk

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    That's because the majority of Brexiteers (except the rich manipulators on top who know exactly what they are doing) have been conned into believing that getting rid of foreigners will solve all their problems. All those problems have been caused by ten years of the Tories making lives worse, but they've managed to continue to divert the blame towards the EU.

    Now we've seen that not only does Brexit not cure all the issues caused by the Tories, it's actually made things worse already (with a lot more coming down the pipeline). Yet (to paraphrase) the Tories continue to lie like the Devil convincing people he doesn't exist, and Brexiteers continue to believe the lies.
     
  9. grudas

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    On one hand I'd love to feel smug and say "haha project fear turned to project reality" but the way things are going is actually depressing and the fact that some stubborn brexiters are still lapping up the complete pile of poo coming from Tories is insane.
     
  10. Irish_Tom

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    It could be worse, look at poor Greece! :o

    At the time of the vote, and many times since, Brexiters I know have repeatedly told me that they weren't interested in my facts, figures and forecasts because Brexit was "about more than just the economy"…

    They don't seem to have grasped that "the economy" affects pretty much everything in our day-to-day lives.
     
  11. NickK

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    So is Boris the 'Butcher of Britain'?

    Seems the BBC has energy and heating soaring price rises splattered over the front page today. I think this winter is going to be very bleak for a large portion of the voting public. Question is will they blame the energy companies or the Tories?
     
  12. grudas

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    The EU, somehow they'll find a way to blame the EU.
     
  13. bayo000

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    Doesn't matter, it will be forgotten/ people will get used to it by the time the next election is due.
     
  14. 413x

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    Apart from brexit making things worse and all the tory stuff around that can you really blame. Tories for the energy crisis?

    I guess main blame needs to go to lack of spending on energy independence. Nuclear, renewable etc. But apart from that and brexit we are at the mercy of global markets
     
  15. NickK

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    If France plays stupid with the energy connection to the UK then it will divert the focus to the Frace/EU. When in fact it plays better for France to simply leave it be, and so Boris will not have the excuse to point at France and the EU (although he will sell it as a win over the EU) however the rising costs will simply be due to the global energy market changes and the lack of partners/negotiating strength being outside of the EU.
    If Russia is not afraid of the EU.. then the UK simply has no voice in terms of market value for the Russian energy market.

    I know that the US, UK and other countries are attempting to keep China out of the South China Sea due to trade shipping rights plus the large oil/gas reserves there. So what is the UK going todo - prop up it's energy market with gas and gas-derived electricity in the long term? Either the UK goes nuclear or partners with an energy cheap country. France derives most of it's energy from Nuclear power thus it softens it's own liability to Russian energy prices.
     
  16. 413x

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    We still have our fish though!
     
  17. NickK

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    I see the broadened prices are going up monthly too.. quelle surprise..
     
  18. Mr Jack

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    France doesn't give a posh toss what people in the UK think, they care whether the UK lives up to its bargain regarding French fishing boats.
     
  19. chrcoluk

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    https://www.techpowerup.com/287574/...reason-for-chip-fab-plans-in-uk-not-an-option

     
  20. NickK

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    I know that France don't give a ****. They don't need to plus I suspect they would earn more immediate points with the French voter being blunt than being more insidious for the longer term.