The Rangers Saga and Fallout Thread
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Rangers are a football club. A football club which is still very much at deaths door. Its ability to emerge properly may well depend on selling a number or all of its high earning players. What this SFA sanction has done is prevented them from being able to do so whilst replacing them with cheaper alternatives. 1 of the arguments put forward by the appeals commitee was that as Rangers currently had approximately 40 players on their books that they would manage fine! This does not take into consideration that a number of players have clauses in their contracts allowing them to leave - it is not outwith the realms of possibility that 15 players or upwards could/ will leave the club in the summer. Rangers are being refused the chance to replace these players. As far as I am aware 2 have already left. Sasa Papac and Kyle Bartley.
The SFA, if it did want to be seen to punish Rangers (although I am still not sure exactly why the club has been punished), could easily have suspended the embargo by 12 months to allow the club to emerge from the administration process and begin the road to recovery.
There were at least 2 occasions last season in which despite Rangers "havin over 40 players on their books" were unable to field a complete 18 man squad.
The SFA, if it did want to be seen to punish Rangers (although I am still not sure exactly why the club has been punished), could easily have suspended the embargo by 12 months to allow the club to emerge from the administration process and begin the road to recovery.
There were at least 2 occasions last season in which despite Rangers "havin over 40 players on their books" were unable to field a complete 18 man squad.
Today?
It was 6 months ago, the reason it is unenforeceable is that player registration lies with the national associations, ie the SFA, not UEFA.
when I read it it had todays date on it.I think the best route would be for an EU player who wants to play at rangers challanges it in court. Maybe an ex italian player who wants a final year playing at the club that launched his career.
It would be a non-starter, EU rules would only possibly take if the player was already registered at Rangers but denied the right to play in Europe which would then potentially be seen as UEFA infringing on his right to ply his trade.
What about a player who wants to be registered with Rangers and cannot as SFA are blocking his registration thus infringing his right to ply his trade?
They haven't stopped him plying his trade as he is free to ply it elsewhere.
The SFA control player registrations, not UEFA.
They will have if he wants to ply his trade with Rangers they have stopped him.
And d'uh I know SFA control player registrations I said if Uefa can't impose a transfer ban maybe SFA cant either. Of course the player would have to take his case to EU courts. Maybe along witht he Bosman and the Webster there could be a Gatusso
They haven't though, he is free to ply it elsewhere. The legal issue is that if he signs for Rangers but UEFA then bar him where they don't have the authority to do so, he can't ply his trade, as he isn't free to go elsewhere.
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They will have if he wants to ply his trade with Rangers they have stopped him.
And d'uh I know SFA control player registrations I said if Uefa can't impose a transfer ban maybe SFA cant either. Of course the player would have to take his case to EU courts. Maybe along witht he Bosman and the Webster there could be a Gatusso
I don't think EU law offers that you can be so specific in choosing where you work. There is nothing to stop him playing at another Scottish club if the SFA were to provide him with a player registration and that is free movement - to demand that you must only be able to work for a certain employer of your choosing is beyond that.
Thinking about it further if you were allowed to demand that the EU courts could force your ability to work for whatever company you wanted through then you could potentially demand to work for a company that is no longer trading and they'd have to reinstate the company? Nah, nothing doing there.
Again then by stopping his registration they stop him plying his trade.
But he's not a player if he has a contract without the registration. A players contract has to be accepted by the SFA as part of the registration. If he doesn't get registration the contract is blocked.
The guy that Rangers tried to sign in January had this happen to him.
I'd say more he should have the ability to work for any company. And not be blocked by a 3rd party. It would be interesting to see the outcome if it was tried.
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I don't think this is the case.
The Bosman case revolved around a player being unable to be registered at any other club. It was judged that this was a restriction on his ability to earn a living.
With Rangers players are actually able to register for any other club - they are not being stopped from plying their trade.
I have a lot of experience dealing with non-compete clauses in employment contracts. These are judged to be enforceable only when they are judged to not restrict someone's ability to earn a living. The broader they are the less enforceable they are. A non-compete clause that prohibits an employee from joining a single competitor is enforceable and this has been challenged unsuccessfully in the past. A clause that prohibits an employee from working for ANY competitor is unenforceable.
I fail to see how a Rangers transfer ban prevents players from plying their trade.
Allan McGregor today launched legal action against Barcelona FC.
He wants to play at the Nou Camp but Barcelona refuse to sign him.
McGregor argues Barcelona's decision is stopping him ply his trade. Escalation to Spanish FA, UEFA, FIFA, DHL, UPS and any other company using acroymns expected
He wants to play at the Nou Camp but Barcelona refuse to sign him.
McGregor argues Barcelona's decision is stopping him ply his trade. Escalation to Spanish FA, UEFA, FIFA, DHL, UPS and any other company using acroymns expected
Allan McGregor today launched legal action against Barcelona FC.
He wants to play at the Nou Camp but Barcelona refuse to sign him.
McGregor argues Barcelona's decision is stopping him ply his trade. Escalation to Spanish FA, UEFA, FIFA, DHL, UPS and any other company using acroymns expected
You failed at that bit.
Youre correct, however what a great many other people fail to see (or rather turn a blind eye to) is these sanctions prevent Rangers getting back on their feet.
When Rangers get back on their feet, we start adressing the debt. Until then, we cannot.
So what is it? Do you want us to remain on our knees with ott sanctions or service the debt? We can`t effectively do both.
It occurs to me that these poor outraged taxpayers would rather see Rangers gone forever than any money being recovered to the HMRC through a CVA.
The mask of an "outraged tax player" slowly slips to reveal the froth mouthed bile from your average Rangers hater who`s rational thought process is clouded by either years of sporting jealousy or inherited bigotry.
They would much rather prolong the pain and suffering of the innocent Rangers fan than see one single pound repaid to the treasury.
This is the general census among the vast majority of innocent Rangers fans who, as i`ve said before, pay their money on time, week in week out, for tickets, merchandise, away tickets, programs etc etc.
It is also the main reason for organising boycotts of grounds where the frothing at the mouth is most prevalent.
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