The real time strategy / turn based strategy / grand strategy thread

Pudney · 14 Sep 2015 at 20:28

I'm slightly addicted to EU4, I was always a Civ player but my hours played on EU vastly outshines it. Really need to try CK2 properly.

After HOI3 and EU4 I have ended buying most Paradox games.

Bleek · 14 Sep 2015 at 20:28

Is EU4 very different to CK2, they look like they use the same map?

HungryHippos · 14 Sep 2015 at 20:36

Darujhistan said:
I've a rough idea what you mean.

Precisely? less so!

It's linux command for delete, Kebab is the nickname EU4 players use for the Ottomans. Reason being that if you play anywhere near them they have a tendency to try to kill you if they can

Bleek said:
Is EU4 very different to CK2, they look like they use the same map?

Yeah very different. CK2 is more focused on your dynasty, EU4 more on your nation as a whole with less of the finer details (you have an army, navy, economy etc but it doesn't bog you down with too much information).

Cromulent · 15 Sep 2015 at 07:16

Bleek said:
Is EU4 very different to CK2, they look like they use the same map?

I've watched a few tutorial videos on both (I only got the games yesterday) and I think I can safely say that CK2 is much harder than EU4.

I think its because the interface is so different from the other Paradox games. In HoI3 and EU4 there is a main window with a load of tabs along the top and that is basically what you use to manage your empire. In CK2 you always need to be aware of what the other characters are doing and the interface feels a little bit clunky. I'm sure I'll get used to it at some point but at the moment I'm concentrating on EU4.

Cromulent · 15 Sep 2015 at 07:19

Eulogy said:
Yep!

My offer on teaching some EU4 stuff still stands if you fancy trying that out too, I found it easier to get into than CK2 personally. Also, the host allows the joiners to have the same DLC during multiplayer so you only need the base game.

That would be really cool. I'm just not sure what my schedule is over the next few days. Today is a total wipe out with a doctors appointment and a job meeting. But maybe later on this week?

How would we go about doing it? Skype call to each other for voice chat and then just a standard multiplayer game or some other way?

HungryHippos · 15 Sep 2015 at 10:41

Cromulent said:
That would be really cool. I'm just not sure what my schedule is over the next few days. Today is a total wipe out with a doctors appointment and a job meeting. But maybe later on this week?

How would we go about doing it? Skype call to each other for voice chat and then just a standard multiplayer game or some other way?

I have a mumble server we can use, you can just download the client and put in the relevant server details when I send them to you, pretty simple

For me the best time will be evening, probably after 20:00 - 20:30.

porushinobu · 15 Sep 2015 at 11:02

Mr_Sukebe said:
Haven't seen any decent Ww2 ones that really excited me since Close Combat3, which I loved. More recently, I was directed to XCOM, which frankly is bloody brilliant and should be on anyone's shopping list. Particularly so as there's "long war" as a free mod available to extend the interest.

I myself was quite fond of the first Company of Heroes, its not terribly recent but still a good game IMHO

linktoinsanity · 15 Sep 2015 at 12:04

Company of Heroes was always quite fun. I got annoyed with leaving a tank for a minutes or two, defending a position, building a new structure, or fighting with other units elsewhere to come back and find my tank dead in the middle of the enemy base...

Started playing more COH2 since the British Expansion and now feel it is a better game than it's predecessor. It's become my new go to game.

Other RTS games I have played and like to play are:

C&C: Red Alert (1, 2 + Yuri's Revenge)
C&C 1 & 3 (less said about TS the better)
Supreme Commander: FA and Supreme Commander 2. I prefer the way you can tweak the difficulty of SC2, as opposed to SC's options which jump between difficulty alarmingly.
Rise of Nations (Extended Edition on Steam)
Age of Empires 1,2 + 3
Total Annihilation
KKND Extreme
StarCraft 1 + 2

Not an exhaustive list.

I'd like to enjoy the Civ series, but don't have the patience for how long it takes to play 1 game.

Cromulent · 16 Sep 2015 at 07:22

Eulogy said:
I have a mumble server we can use, you can just download the client and put in the relevant server details when I send them to you, pretty simple

For me the best time will be evening, probably after 20:00 - 20:30.

Not sure I'll be able to make that to be honest at the moment. I have to get up quite early in the mornings at the moment and am generally in bed by about 20:00.

porushinobu · 16 Sep 2015 at 09:08

linktoinsanity said:
Company of Heroes was always quite fun. I got annoyed with leaving a tank for a minutes or two, defending a position, building a new structure, or fighting with other units elsewhere to come back and find my tank dead in the middle of the enemy base...

Started playing more COH2 since the British Expansion and now feel it is a better game than it's predecessor. It's become my new go to game.

Other RTS games I have played and like to play are:

C&C: Red Alert (1, 2 + Yuri's Revenge)
C&C 1 & 3 (less said about TS the better)
Supreme Commander: FA and Supreme Commander 2. I prefer the way you can tweak the difficulty of SC2, as opposed to SC's options which jump between difficulty alarmingly.
Rise of Nations (Extended Edition on Steam)
Age of Empires 1,2 + 3
Total Annihilation
KKND Extreme
StarCraft 1 + 2

Not an exhaustive list.

I'd like to enjoy the Civ series, but don't have the patience for how long it takes to play 1 game.

C&C: Red Alert (1, 2 + Yuri's Revenge)
C&C 1 & 3 (less said about TS the better)
C&C Generals & Zero Hour
Supreme Commander: FA and Supreme Commander 2.
Age of Empires 2
Dawn of war, DoW Winter assault, dark crusade, soulstorm

used to love end war before it became like titan fall with nothing but elites, and because I had been away rom it for a while i sucked so hard id lose in minutes! XD

I play red alert 2 and generals ZH online using game ranger but I mainly comp stomp as im too lazy these days to play against people

HungryHippos · 16 Sep 2015 at 11:16

Cromulent said:
Not sure I'll be able to make that to be honest at the moment. I have to get up quite early in the mornings at the moment and am generally in bed by about 20:00.

That's not a problem, if you're free Saturday at some point we can do it then, next week I am back from work much earlier so would have some time between 16:00 - 18:00 probably if it suits

seanyc5 · 16 Sep 2015 at 11:55

Now my PC is at a desk I can finally play some mouse only games! First on the list is Wasteland 2 (I brought it in kickstarter never even finished Highpool hahah)

Any pro tips? Im just about to go up the lift into the proper village bit.

PayneUK · 16 Sep 2015 at 12:43

seanyc5 said:
Now my PC is at a desk I can finally play some mouse only games! First on the list is Wasteland 2 (I brought it in kickstarter never even finished Highpool hahah)

Any pro tips? Im just about to go up the lift into the proper village bit.

While I hate to say this when you've just picked it back up again... wait for the Directors Cut edition

Will improve some of the flaws the game did have (I still REALLY enjoyed it, but it does have some issues later on in the game), upgrade the visuals (not massively important to me but still nice) change combat a fair bit and change how you build your characters to give them a little more depth.

It'll be free to all current owners, and I believe the release date is 16/10/15

It's why I've held off on my Divinity: original sin play-through after I had to stop fairly early on, will wait for the 'enhanced edition' and start again.

Cromulent · 16 Sep 2015 at 15:26

I've started a public Mumble server that anyone can join. I posted it on the Paradox forums but anyone here who wants to talk about HoI3, EU4 or CK2 is free to join as well. There is also a general chat channel so you can talk about different games if you like.

It'll be best if you use the latest Mumble client which at the time of writing is 1.2.10 to connect.

The server info is as follows:

IP Address: 46.101.12.120
Port: 64738

come along and chat about strategy games

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seanyc5 · 16 Sep 2015 at 19:07

PayneUK said:
While I hate to say this when you've just picked it back up again... wait for the Directors Cut edition

Will improve some of the flaws the game did have (I still REALLY enjoyed it, but it does have some issues later on in the game), upgrade the visuals (not massively important to me but still nice) change combat a fair bit and change how you build your characters to give them a little more depth.

It'll be free to all current owners, and I believe the release date is 16/10/15

It's why I've held off on my Divinity: original sin play-through after I had to stop fairly early on, will wait for the 'enhanced edition' and start again.

Haha great thanks. I've been on it most of the day, just about to go and get some rad suits from RV. Been looting everything and exploring everywhere. Its seriously time consuming though, must have only done a handful of quests!

jasonsony735 · 16 Sep 2015 at 21:21

MichaelAwkward said:
I miss Rise of Nations. Spent so much time playing that game multiplayer. I know it's on Steam but it's not the same any more.[/QUOT

I miss this game loads So many hours of fun ...

I find I can't get in to these games anymore , I use to spend hours and hours on games like this , The ones I will never forget and its a shame they didnt make a new one is Cossacks This game was amazing & I was pretty good it at and then after that I got in to Rise of nations and that was a lot of fun , I did use to play the DW games as well but no one seems to play them online anymore.

almoststew1990 · 16 Sep 2015 at 21:32

I am a big C&C and AoE 1,2 and 3 fan but for some reason I struggle to get into other strategy games. Has anyone got any recommendations For similar base based games?

Also I feel like I should like Civ games (for the same reasons I like AoE games... I like the idea of progressing a Civilisation through the ages). Which civ game is the best for beginners to the game type?

Sargatanas2511 · 16 Sep 2015 at 23:51

Surprised no one has mentioned Sins of a Solar Empire. Fantastic space based RTS in my opinion and fun in multiplayer as well as on your own.

Kreeeee · 16 Sep 2015 at 23:56

almoststew1990 said:
I am a big C&C and AoE 1,2 and 3 fan but for some reason I struggle to get into other strategy games. Has anyone got any recommendations For similar base based games?

Also I feel like I should like Civ games (for the same reasons I like AoE games... I like the idea of progressing a Civilisation through the ages). Which civ game is the best for beginners to the game type?

Tried Starcraft 1/2?

Cromulent · 17 Sep 2015 at 08:12

almoststew1990 said:
I am a big C&C and AoE 1,2 and 3 fan but for some reason I struggle to get into other strategy games. Has anyone got any recommendations For similar base based games?

Also I feel like I should like Civ games (for the same reasons I like AoE games... I like the idea of progressing a Civilisation through the ages). Which civ game is the best for beginners to the game type?

Civ 4 is the best Civ game imo. You might also like Warcraft 3 and the expansion pack. That was a pretty decent RTS game.