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Chuk_Chuk said:
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neck and neck 1440p . Brick wall 4k.

6800xt is a perfect 1440p card, just what i need.
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Gerard said:
7% on average in it? Nothing that can't be improved on.
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That friend is the big question isn't it? When the Amper cards are overclocked do they land higher than an overclocked 6800XT? (Talking the 6800XT AIB cards that I doubt will be available next week). 7% deficit starting is a margin though?
 
Dontrocktheboat said:
neck and neck 1440p . Brick wall 4k.

6800xt is a perfect 1440p card, just what i need.
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This doesn't prove that infinity cache is the bottleneck. Please provide the testing that shows that infinity cache is the bottlenecking at 4k?

Too many people claiming this without evidence. How about not jumping the gun on your conclusion and waiting for testing.
 
Will many of us be able to get our hands on any of these mythical unicorns before January is the real question. You can argue performance all day long, doesn't matter if it's not sat in your rig giving you the raytracing(ornot),DLSS(orEssLess)FPS, at a price so good it can't be real(it wasn't)
I just want a good card, at a fair price, that makes my games look nice, and won't suck in 18 months or until both makers decide to put and extra 8gb of ram on their cards and we do this all over again:D
 
Indeed, before the 6800 series launched we could already see the 3080 scaled worse at 1080p/1440p and so are the big navi cards really bottlenecking at 4K or is it just the fact that the 3080 are less bottlenecked there?
 
Hakanese said:
Will many of us be able to get our hands on any of these mythical unicorns before January is the real question. You can argue performance all day long, doesn't matter if it's not sat in your rig giving you the raytracing(ornot),DLSS(orEssLess)FPS, at a price so good it can't be real(it wasn't)
I just want a good card, at a fair price, that makes my games look nice, and won't suck in 18 months or until both makers decide to put and extra 8gb of ram on their cards and we do this all over again:D
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The 25th will the critical point, as well as the following days/weeks after. AMD are claiming they are doing daily shipments to AIBs. We will find out soon enough whether or not that is the case.
 
stooeh said:
Indeed, before the 6800 series launched we could already see the 3080 scaled worse at 1080p/1440p and so are the big navi cards really bottlenecking at 4K or is it just the fact that the 3080 are less bottlenecked there?
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Perhaps it's not the 6800 series are bottlenecked ?

According to this the 3080 architecture isn't utilised as much under 4k, if the same is the same for Big Navi, dunno?

 
Chuk_Chuk said:
This doesn't prove that infinity cache is the bottleneck. Please provide the testing that shows that infinity cache is the bottlenecking at 4k?

Too many people claiming this without evidence. How about not jumping the gun on your conclusion and waiting for testing.
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From what I've gathered the 6800xt isn't clocking as high as it should (if left at stock clocks) at 4K. I believe Steve from HU mentioned that towards the end of his 6800xt video.

I don't believe that 6800 currently has that issue. If that is true, and it might be, it might explain the lower then expected 4k results. As it was the same issue with the 5700xt when it 1st launched. It would, without rhyme or reason, down clock by 100-200 Mhz lower then it should in games. Sometimes for certain games it wouldn't clock any higher then the OEM 5700xt and below. Which was around 1800 Mhz or something like that instead of 2000Mhz.

It took me a few minutes to figure out what was going. But did notice I was having really low FPS in BFV back then. Once I enabled OSD I noticed the clock rates were not what they were suppose to be. That lead to huge threads over on Reddit with many people complaining about it. Which was finally fixed. But they never explained what cause the problem.

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If I recall correctly the problem was that they didn't have the profile of the game setup correctly in the drivers. Once they got that fixed the clock issue never returned. I recall not seeing a profile for BFV for example.
 
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The 25th will the critical point, as well as the following days/weeks after. AMD are claiming they are doing daily shipments to AIBs. We will find out soon enough whether or not that is the case.
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Got a feeling most cards on the 25th will be the AIB's reference models with coolers or or stickers and the true custom cards are a few weeks away, just how it reads across the internet, not expecting to be able to buy a monster on the 25th for sure.
 
Tiny_D said:
Got a feeling most cards on the 25th will be the AIB's reference models with coolers or or stickers and the true custom cards are a few weeks away, just how it reads across the internet, not expecting to be able to buy a monster on the 25th for sure.
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It was like that on launch day. No reference card now on the 25th.
 
The AMD driver experience is something people coming from Nvidia will need to get used to, it's a bit more fiddly but being able to set profiles per game and then general desktop use is kind of nice, if only it wasn't so jarring and confusing initially
 
Poneros said:
No, the conclusion is: don't be stupid enough to make conclusions based on bad data. The reason I say this is not because I believe AMD performance will find itself to be sky high (or overtake NV), but because you have to employ clear thinking as a rule. And if you're NV-biased then you shouldn't do it anyway because it might turn out that AMD's performance will be even lower without the bugged version! There's plenty of fight left in the GPU war, no need for early retirement.

As for the neutrality of 3dmark - LOL! Never has it been, never will it be.
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The data is not bad, please dont lie. Every benchmark even the DX12u Procedural Geometry sample application from Microsoft’s DXR SDK, shows the 6000 series as slower. https://www.thefpsreview.com/2020/1...short-of-nvidia-rtx-according-to-early-tests/ This is then mirrored by Port Royal, Control, minecraft and other games. Because many different sources support each other, each difference source showing lower performance, then we can have hi confidence that performance is indeed lower than the 3080. Please stop spreading misinformation. If real evidence comes to light to support your position then make the argument but at the moment the evidence does not show your conclusion is supported.
 
Too many salty nvidia fanboys in this thread.

Managed to get a 6800 yesterday; to finally upgrade from my 780ti. I was considering the 3070 initially, but for a small amount the 16GB of VRAM makes a lot more sense; plus RT is a gimmick at the moment, imo, and without RT it destroys the 3070 and even trades blows with the 3080. First thing on my mind were the drivers. I gotta say, they are so much better than nVidia's. I quite like how easy it is setting up profiles for each game, or getting overlaid metrics, and generally seem so much more feature rich, without the need to run 3rd party apps to tweak the card or fan profiles.

I gotta say I love the card. Performance wise I was expecting it, can play new titles at 1440p Ultra no issues. What I wasn't expecting is how quiet it is and how cool it runs. Gaming with 100% GPU utilisation, my clocks hover around 2200-2250, with VRAM on a steady 1988. Temperature is between 68-71°C with the fans running around 1600RPM. At that level I can barely make it out from the other fans in my setup which are also set to run relatively quiet, as opposed to my 780ti, which was like a jet engine taking off, despite running at >90°C.

So overall; low acoustics, great performance and cool temperatures; for a reference model can't complaint.
 
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