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The Trump presidency.

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by datalol-jack, 21 Nov 2016.

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  1. doodah

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    The look on Trump's face sums up that night up nicely.
     
  2. One More Solo

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    So it’s the New York Times vs “two of your US colleagues”. I know who my money’s on here...
     
  3. semi-pro waster

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    Maybe Donald Trump is draining the swamp by allowing the authorities an easy way to identify if they should be interested in someone in politics for potential malfeasance? There does seem to be an awful lot of people linked to his campaign who have been investigated and/or charged with various wrongdoing.
     
  4. StriderX

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    Maybe he is indeed Clinton's greatest honeytrap plan to destroy the GOP? He's done so much more damage than sensible policies ever could.
     
  5. Grandmaster Fap!

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    He's either a Russian agent or he's working for the Dems, no Rep would be this dumb, he's basically burying the party single handed :D
     
  6. C.R.A.Z.Y

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    This is the kind of utter pond scum that trump attracts:

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    Disgusting, lets see how long it takes trump the text-book racist to denounce this despicable cowardly attack!
     
  7. StriderX

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    Going by GD comments, it's entirely "normal" to hate people because they're black/gay apparently.

    Cereal though, as usual the facade is so thin it's embarrassing. Noone even cares about the MAGAbomber anymore, hardly a surprise.
     
  8. C.R.A.Z.Y

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    They reportedly poured bleach on him which suggests to me it was a premeditated racist attack, very likely by a couple of vile trump fanatics who thanks to the racist **** in office now feel emboldened :mad:

    **EDIT**

    Chicago PD are now stating that the reports of MAGA being yelled are incorrect, that said anyone who thinks trump hasn't emboldened racists up and down the US are being deliberately naive
     
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  9. drunkenmaster

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    It's not just that, seriously this has been a saying that has been used in American films for the past what 50+ years, ambulance chasers are lawyers who try to sign up people who have been in accidents before anyone else can.

    Even if someone started using it in a small scale to describe something else doesn't change what it more generally means.

    Though in general things like insurance and risk of death means there is almost certain to be no chance anyone is running around with ambulances not answering calls but trying to pick up random accident victims and dropping them at hospitals.

    They need to be working for a service, insured, and able to be contacted easily by the hospital incase of issues like transporting someone with meningitis, other infectious diseases. If they randomly pick someone up hoping to get $4k for a ride, but the person dies on route and become liable for a multi million dollar lawsuit when, ironically, an ambulance chaser shows up in the ER to talk to the family about suing this cowboy ambulance service.
     
  10. drunkenmaster

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    Yup, somehow racist attacks and general racist incidents were mostly on a slow reduction over the years and Obama being in office obviously upset a lot but most people kept their racist views inside their houses yet under Trump election campaign and presidency right wing attacks have increase, racist attacks have increased and honestly just right wing GOP members feeling comfortable to say straight up racist crap on camera has gone through the roof.

    It's just amazing that a black president didn't embolden these people to stand up and be proud of their racism as a need to 'fight back', but you let someone in power constantly air racist views and a significant portion of the party that follows them suddenly feels a lot more comfortable being openly racist.
     
  11. timmeh

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    That makes no sense though. Ambulances pick you up and take you to the nearest available hospital so in your scenario you'd be paying $2k more for the same service. You don't have multiple ambulances turning up to a scene offering different prices and you don't call different numbers to get a different service. You call 911 and an ambulance comes and gets you, exactly like in the UK.

    It looks like it's a state-by-state thing and they don't work the way you think they do. Private ambulances are used for 'lower risk' things and the state run ambulances are used for the rest of the things.
     
  12. muon

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    Ambulance chaser is an American term anyway. It also means exactly what 99% of people think it means.
     
  13. Evole

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    It all depends where you are. You have some villages/cities who have their own ambulances. You also have some smaller areas where there are privately owned ambulances only. Also if you call 911 and a private ambulance is close by - you will get that. Yes the prices will differ. Ambulance and hospital almost always do not have any 'billing' relationship. Ambulance will charge you for their own services separately.

    Ambulance ride is very expensive in states, majority people opt for Uber. Whether thats good/bad is up for debate....
     
  14. Freakbro

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    US intelligence report to the Senate contradicts Trump's self aggrandised "successes"

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47051606

    North Korea aren't giving up their nukes.

    Iran isn't trying to develop nukes

    Russia & China aren't allies and are a serious cyber threat

    ISIS aren't defeated
     
  15. Mercenary Keyboard Warrior

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    Jeez i dont know all I know is that 2 people said it as we were having a big conversation about healthcare the costs etc
    Both were new yorkers and 2 others from the US (jersey and taxas didnt say anything, so maybe it doesnt happen there)

    They were quite clear in how they said it was working. The private firms (lets say some private firms) would listen out and try to get to accidents etc first. If they arrived first there would be a high chance that the injured person would be placed in their ambulance and they would go off to the nearest ER. I am not sure whats so hard to understand about what they say happens. I am sure it doesn't happen all the time, but they were quite clear it was what some of the private firms were up to. This was about 2 years ago now as we were talking about healthcare specifically as people were interested in Trump who was going on about obamacare.
     
  16. doodah

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    Look at that, a recent business survey showed that businesses aren't reinvesting in jobs and capital investments. A surprise to no one.

    And I have just read a Washington Examiner article blaming spending, specifically the social programs been the main problem for the rising deficits. It's strange that they just missed the extra $50bn a year for defence or should they be spending $100bn a year maintaining miliatry bases around the world, $1.5tn on a plane with software problems or nearly $1tn a year on the whole defence budget and related activities.

    They said these tax cuts would pay for themselves, they promised at least 3% growth, they promised average families an extra $4,000 a year in tax cuts, they promised higher salaries (there has been a small uptick in hourly wages but it usally peters out to around 0% when adjusted for inflation), they promised companies would invest more. None of these things have happened and I know we all know they wouldn't but it's the disingenuous priming by the press for the axe that reallt grinds me.

    I am not saying these programs aren't a drain but I am pretty sure one of them (the one for >65yr olds) can easily be fixed with a small tax increase. It's just crazy a population has been fooled into having little issues with spending their taxes on on warfare rather than education, healthcare and infrastruture.

    Edit - Manafort's sentencing hearing has been delayed again. One judge is awaiting confirmation if Manafort broke his plea deal before proceeding. He's a proven liar but really is sticking to his guns so unsure how this will play out.
     
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  17. JeditOjanen

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    If anyone wants to know how it works, watch Michael Moore's movie Sicko. Moore should always be taken with a grain of salt because he's not an even-handed reporter - even he admits it - but his real aim is to provide the side of the story that typically you do not hear. In the case of Sicko, it's not a movie about how people without health insurance cope. It's about how people with health insurance get screwed by the system.
     
  18. The Geezer

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  19. doodah

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    But he said ISIS was defeated and now he says, they are almost defeated......

    Schiff raises a good point - Coates and co aren't exactly backing up Trump's claim about a crisis at the southern border.

    At least this is another issue that will actually annoy the GOP unlike the 100 hundred things he's screwed up.
     
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  20. JRS

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