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The Trump presidency

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by datalol-jack, Nov 21, 2016.

  1. jsmoke

    Soldato

    Joined: Jun 17, 2012

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    I haven't really been keeping up with this, seems it's too early to say atm as various factors are involved but your right it doesn't look good atm.
     
  2. C.R.A.Z.Y

    Mobster

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    People need to remember that 26 of the 34 people Mueller has charged in his investigation are Russians, along with 3 Russian companies.
    So all this nothing to do with Russia hysteria is asinine, whether trump colluded directly with the Russians remains to be seen.
    But to this point the investigation has been VERY successful, the same cannot be said for the Republican's recent waste of money investigations.
     
  3. Yas786

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    :D this tickled me senseless lol.

    Jsmoke saying he isn’t a trump supporter lol. You know it’s ok to admit you are one, we might even take his comments slightly more seriously if he would just be honest about supporting trump.....nah who am I kidding, no one with half a brain cell could take anything a trump supporter half seriously
     
  4. jsmoke

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    I meant I don't idolise Trump but I do think he was needed at the time, there were some dangerous things going on such as tensions with Russian, interference in the ME and various other things. He was always an independent using the Rep's as a platform I think. It's all calmed down now, people are used to Trump and see he's not as bad as they initially thought. Can you remember a couple of years ago, the hatred toward him was off the scale, treating him as a racist, Nazi, bigot, a madman and plenty more.

    We still need to wait for the result of his economic policies but there has been growth overall I believe.
     
  5. C.R.A.Z.Y

    Mobster

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    wow
    You have no clue fella
     
  6. Fairly sure the answer is no

    Sgarrista

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    Wasn't it said that Mueller wouldn't likely go after a sitting president?

    I'm interested to see this report and as a trunp hater, can say for gold or bad, I'm glad it's been submitted now even if this isn't a clear smoking gun.

    Trump is beyond guilty of many many many things that are enough to end him. At first it felt this report was needed, but in reality all we need is just trumps mouth and twitter to help bring him down.
     
  7. JeditOjanen

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    1) Because a lot of the American right are fundamentalists who believe the return of Israel is a prerequisite for the Rapture.

    2) Because they hate Muslims.
     
  8. Yas786

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    Hehe he lives in his own alternate reality.
     
  9. Colonel_Klinck

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    All Trump has done Russia wise is give them a pass. The reason tensions were high was because Putin murdered abroad and at home including Sergei Magnitsky which got a law passed and a load of sanctions. He also ripped off or allowed his henchmen to rip off foreign investors for 100s of $millions. Then he invaded Crimea, interfered in Georgia's government and elections. Oh and is constantly engaged in active measures against the West and our democracies. He is for me the most dangerous man on Earth. He wants the West divided, the EU broken up, the US isolated, perhaps of its own doing.

    He isn't a republican, he's a Trumpster. His only interest is what he can get. So a nice fat tax break for the 1%. Contacts and influence and of course money for his family businesses. He doesn't give a damn about appointed judges ect other than if they can protect him from future criminal charges and they keep his base happy.

    I think he is just as hated, he has dragged the office of the president through the mud. He has made lying on a daily basis totally acceptable. He attacks anyone and everyone, even dead war heroes.

    He has added more than 2 $trillion to the deficit. Someone is going to have to pay that back, it won't be his generation.

    He said neo nazis and white nationalists where "good people". I never thought I'd hear a leader of the US says those words. What really winds me up about him though is he's a bully. I hate bullies. He's a wannabe mobster, he's a criminal who has spent a career ripping off people poorer than him and not suffered the consequences of his actions.
     
  10. Raymond Lin

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    Trump was never needed at ANY time.

    The "swamp" that Washington had was call a democracy, where Politicians had backbones, where lies and criminal indictments don't happen to their staff, where the vast, if nor all of the important position in government are filled, where the longest government shut down hasn't happened in over 20 years over pressure from a TV and radio host.

    Normal!

    Trump, whatever he brings, is never needed.
     
  11. Evangelion

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    We already know that Mueller has proved:

    * criminal activity within the Trump campaign
    * criminal activity within the Trump Foundation
    * criminal activity within the Trump administration
    * Russian interference in the 2016 election, with the aim of getting Trump into power

    r/Mueller will claim this as a win.

    However, as I've said from the start, Trump has covered his bases well enough. He won't be indicted or impeached on the basis of the Mueller report. r/The_Donald will claim this as a win.
     
  12. Evangelion

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    Trump was not needed, and he has not done anything to resolve these issues.
     
  13. Evangelion

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    Mueller's investigation has exposed so much corruption, the scandals will continue long after his report has been released.

    (Source).

    Trump is completely ring-fenced by criminal inquiries. This will be the defining feature of his presidency.
     
  14. The Geezer

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    Sadly Trump is here to stay.

    There will be a lot of people popping in here going on about the ‘no collusion’, without understanding that Mueller was hoovering up other crimes during his investigation which his indictment allowed.

    I’m sure this news is going to embolden Trump further, the worst is yet to come. He already thought he could walk on water now with the report out and no further indictments Trump will think he has the power to raise the dead like other deities.

    He’s been given a green light to fill the Trump Organisations’ coffers for the next few decades, with whatever legislation through Executive Orders he’ll be signing off.
     
  15. sityeuropa

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    Trump is one clever fox eh. Covering all bases. Must know what he's doing alright !
     
  16. Evangelion

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    I've never accused him of not being smart enough to cover his crimes.
     
  17. StriderX

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    Still plenty of work for investigators to deal with, Mueller’s report was always going to be minimal with respect to Trump himself.

    And if Wisconsin is anything to go by, if eventually it transpires out of the other numerous state level investigations that Trump is a criminal, they can just undo everything.

    Cards are falling where they should I feel, dems won’t want to harm the office of the presidency for a single demented idiot. They can probably wait it out. As Trump where he is, is also a great vote pusher for the democrats while he continues to do illegal ****.
     
  18. RaohNS

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    Post that giant oversized page of the probe

    Links between trump campaign and Russia... Aka collusion...

    Lol every poster in here who believed that there was collusion (aka an illicit link between the Trump campaign and Russia) is now a fully certified CTer.

    This is an enormous victory for Trump and proves exactly what he was saying that it was a witch hunt.

    You had an investigation with an overeach beyond measure signed by a corrupt trump hater who was part of a team of Trump hating democratic operatives at the top of the FBI and DoJ who all conspired to try and remove a legitimately elected President... In other countries we call that a coup (all be it in the first instance a soft one). Proven by the "We'll stop this" Strzok texts plus the others of them working together

    Covered his bases well enough lol... The guy has had every inch of his life gone over with a fine tooth comb, his lawyers office raided, his children likely facing some digging into in the process and a relentless Fake News CNN news cycle where two minutes hate has been given every day for two years.

    Seems Dan Bongino, Mark Levin and all the so called "whack jobs" have been correct all along, meanwhile the news media has been
    ... Lol

    Owned :D

    Try again with the fake FEC finance violations that even the guy who wrote them Bradley Smith said was not a violation :D

    :D

    This thread... More resentment incoming and yet more hatred
     
  19. doodah

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    We may need to screenshot that.
     
  20. Evangelion

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    That's not what 'collusion' means.

    Conspiracy theorist drivel. This is OCUK, not AboveTopSecret.

    Nope. Not even close. Trump has refused to release his tax returns (after promising to do so) and threatened schools to keep his academic record a secret. That's just two examples of the way he's covered his bases.

    Obama was the most heavily scrutinised POTUS in history, and he won two history-making landslide victories. Trump isn't even in the same league.

    If it was a witch hunt, why has it resulted in so many convictions of Trump staff, why has it resulted in the shutdown of the Trump Foundation, why has it revealed multiple criminal activities by Trump staff, and why has it resulted in the indictment of foreign nationals who were shown to have interfered with the 2016 election?

    'Enormous victory'? For Mueller, yes. For Trump, no.
     
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