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The Trump presidency

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by datalol-jack, Nov 21, 2016.

  1. Colonel_Klinck

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    Seriously that is your argument? Hilary was investigated for years by the Republican controlled Congress and found to have committed no crimes. The FBI investigated her and the DOJ under Obama and Trump said no crimes. How many more ways do you want it put? Just because Trump screams "lock her up!" at his rallies doesn't mean she is guilty of a crime, acting irresponsibly perhaps by having a server at home but there has to be intent for it to be a crime. She is guilty of an act of stupidity.

    I was listening to a podcast last night and another one of Trump's public corruption stories was raised. The FBI Hoover building is opposite his hotel 5 blocks from the WH. It's literally falling apart so plans were made to move the headquarters elsewhere. In 2013 Trump made inquiries to buy the land as he feared another hotel might be built opposite his hotel. Now he comes to power and as POTUS he can't buy public land. He can however stop the FBI moving and freeing up that plot. So now the FBI aren't moving but instead the headquarters is going to be demolished and rebuilt there. Given the fact he has a personal interest in what happens with that land he shouldn't be having any say in what happens for obvious reasons. Memos have been leaked to Congress stating that POTUS wants the FBI to remain there and to make it happen. Congress is now investigating but surprise surprise the WH is refusing to cooperate.

    The man is corrupt through and through. He can't help himself in the same way he can't stop lying. It is in his DNA now after decades of doing it and getting away with it.
     
  2. Murphy

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    Couldn't you have just posted a link instead of copy & pasting from this?
     
  3. Sleepery

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    I'll give Trump four things:

    1. Not being a warmonger, as mentioned above
    2. Support for NASA. Even if it is because he thinks space soldiers would be cool.
    3. Showing the world what a cesspit American culture and politics actually is, undoing decades of carefully crafted Hollywood propoganda.
    4. Helping me to recognise and not bother engaging with someone who's a professional bull******* online :D
     
  4. Pottsey

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    Didn't Trump administrator just drop 40tons of bombs in one day. Trump has done a lot that could be classed as a warmonger. Trump has done a lot of encouragement and/or advocacy of aggression toward other countries or groups:


    Of course he couldn't its clear he isn't interested in real debate. Just like he isn't interested in real facts or reliable trustworthy sources.
     
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  5. Sleepery

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    Trump is entirely focused on optics and easy wins. You're entirely correct Pottsey, in that within a week or two of taking office he ordered the largest non-nuclear bomb used in anger. In what was, in my opinion, one of the most despicable acts of his presidency, he also got a navy seal killed purely because he wanted to outdo Obama's raid on Osama Bin-Laden.

    So when I say he's not a warmonger, it's not because I think it's through any moral qualms about getting people killed. He's just worried about what everyone will think of him.
     
  6. Kyo

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    When ratings are down, he opted for firing Tomahawk missiles just to improve them. As you say its all about perception and image, he is tough and is the best......at everything. Which we all know for a fact is a lie. Not to his fanbase though.
     
  7. plasmahal

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    Nope and it wasn't from there.
     
  8. Jono8

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    By that, do you mean Trump?

    He spends his days lying and criticising his past self on Twitter.
     
  9. Murphy

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    Does where it's from matter if what you posted is a verbatim copy & paste then?

    I can understand quoting relevant sections to substantiate a claim but if all but a few words are your own isn't that just plagiarism.
     
  10. Flibster

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    And also became the only person to use the GBU-43 MOAB in 'combat'. The largest non-nuclear weapon in their inventory.

    Saving the nukes for hurricanes. ;)
     
  11. doodah

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    And some of it was laughably out of date.
     
  12. Jono8

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    And laughably ridiculous.

    "Action to combat Russia’s malign activities, including their efforts to undermine the sanctity of United States elections."

    No words can express how disingenuous that is ^
     
  13. Colonel_Klinck

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    Haha what a fool. Obviously been briefed on the tech and then wants to blurt it out to the press. General suggests its not a good idea. He's like a kid who always has to show off his new stuff.

     
  14. muffins

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    HAHAHAHA WHAT A FOOL INDEED!!!!

    Yeah… it’s obvious he want briefed on the sensitivity of the technology. It seems only some want to take umbrage.

    Lest we forget.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/16533/5-times-obama-administration-leaked-classified-michael-qazvini
     
  15. Kyo

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    Here we go whatabouty, Obama, Hilary etc etc. If we are comparing they are no where near the level with Trump and bloody twitter out of all places. He just can stop himself bragging and leaking classified info time and again without any care of the repercussions and then uses the old "declassify" excuse. Complete clown and you know it. He constantly mentions the world is a laughing at the US but now with him leading.......they are a even bigger joke with this buffoon.
     
  16. wesimmo

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  17. VincentHanna

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    Hehe
     
  18. Pottsey

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    As much as I hate Hillary that's nothing compared to Trump who has not only done the same but much worse. What about when Trump and family used emails from a private server and deleted them all? Which is nothing compared to the other crimes Trumps has committed.

    If Trump was not hounded by so many people he would have caused massively more corruption and crimes. He would have leached off even more government money into his pockets. If Trump has his way he would do done more traitorous acts with the Russians with more secrete meetings and he would have made more leaks getting people killed. Its not all hysteria when a lot of it is true. Just how look the Trumps set up a charity and diverted the money into buying items for themselves instead of going to the charity needs and it looks like paying off porn stars who they had affairs with. How are you are ok with all that and the rest I didn't post. Why would want to see what they would do without people keeping an eye on them? You really think its ok for Trump to fill the Whitehouse up with criminals and be left to do that unsupervised? Its clear the Trumps are more corrupt and immoral and then Hillary.
     
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  19. plasmahal

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    More post and run with no context or info. Well done, great debate, well done indeed.
     
  20. Greebo

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    Is that it? No rebuttal? No "whataboutery?" No "but Hilary". I am disappointed. :(