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Theresa May to create new internet that would be controlled and regulated by government

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Old Man, May 19, 2017.

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  1. sigma

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    Turkey is just as bad too.
     
  2. crinkleshoes

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    No... I'm saying that people have the choice to accept that or go somewhere else and make their own mind up.

    This legislation is trying to remove that possibility.
     
  3. crinkleshoes

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    He is... it's perfect there apparently... must be happy that they have bought a lot of our land and infrastructure too... no wonder we are pandering to their structure... yeyyyyy United China Kingdom of Mao.

    Oh... if this legislation is past I'll get fired by our Chinese overlords for saying that... dammit.
     
  4. crinkleshoes

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    Also... at least their agenda is obvious... profit... and their profit is in working with and interpreting human nature... not fighting and controlling it
     
  5. stewski

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    To be honest the best analogy I can think of is:

    Microsoft watch Android and iOS grow beyond windows and track their users and decide, lets release windows 10 and force key loggin and updates on all

    Cameron and May watch China become the most successful capitalist nation on earth an decide, lets pay our workers a pittance and attempt to out do the state control of the internet in China!

    Both understandable but flawed strategies on every level.
     
  6. Macro

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    Ahhh, multibillion dollar global companies held up as a beacon of freedom imposing their own standards of censorship and absolutely not, under any circumstances, nu uh, trying to control human nature... Wow, just wow...
     
  7. opethdisciple

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    The Chinese are communist. ;)
     
  8. Cleisthenes

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    Have you actually read what it says within the manifesto? It simply states that they wish to regulate more. The sensationalist article is absurd and it's exactly what causes people to be misguided.

    Read the manifesto (or the direct quote, not the rubbish which they say that "Senior Tories" have said) and decide what it means yourself. Think for yourselves for once.
     
  9. Macro

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    Um, China is a communist state so closer to Labours (particularly Corbyns) ideology...
     
  10. crinkleshoes

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    I assume the ;) means you are being sarcastic
     
  11. crinkleshoes

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    LOL... China isn't Communist
     
  12. StriderX

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    Ah yes, because manifestos are to be believed 100% and politicians have very strict goals in mind?

    Nah, Snoopers was enough for me.
     
  13. Amp34

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    Just as it would make it easier in the real world to get a hitman. I assume if the government suggested we should all start wearing microphones on our collars so the police can hear everything we say and who we meet then you'd be backing it?

    In the unregulated unpoliced real world anyone could meet up with a hitman and dismiss a hit without the police knowing, but we could regulate and solve that issue by logging and monitoring everything that was said and what locations people visited.

    Just think of how many lives we could save by monitoring that!

    Just because the technology isn't realistically here yet doesn't mean it's not a relatable example.
     
  14. Macro

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    lol... China is ruled by the communist party of China which has been the single ruling political party since 1949.. lol rofl lmao etc ;):D
     
  15. danielanthony

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    Because if you were that worried about privacy you would be using a VPN and have no social media profile or apps on your phone.
     
  16. StriderX

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    Single ruling political parties aren't about being communist, it just works out best, a true communist state would not have currently the most capitalist mindset. (The only real barrier is the Chinese government meddling in said economy, but generally they let it flow).

    You could have a single party system in a capitalist nation as well, it wont obviously be a democracy, but it'd work in a libertarian sense at least.
     
  17. Amp34

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    There are both moral and legal issues that need to be discussed here. Ignoring all the other facets involved in the manifesto pledge and just discussing porn...

    Child porn is both illegal and considered immoral for the majority of the population, the partaking in sex or sexual activity with children is also illegal.

    The vast majority of porn is neither immoral or illegal to perform. Some just becomes illegal when being recorded and viewed by others. That's the issue being discussed here.

    This government have already outlawed pornography involving legal acts between two (or more) consenting adults. Their manifesto pledge appears to be continuing down that train of thought and heading towards what appears to be an eventual goal of only allowing adults to view porn that is considered by the government as "morally acceptable", if any at all.

    The legality of the acts recorded appear not to be being considered - although I would hazard a guess that May may well like to make many of those acts illegal as well - rather the moral viewpoint of a few conservative Conservative party members is the only thing that seems to matter.

    Therein lies the issue. It's about control, porn just being the tip of the iceberg that is going to have less people defending it. Just as the continued use of buzzwords like terrorism, paedophiles and criminals is banded around way too often. The real issue is the laws and regulation could/will also be used to suppress dissent in other areas - the media for one.
     
  18. Trusty

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    Why do people do this? Are you reading anything at all? go to post 143, what does it say about China?
     
  19. Trusty

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    Why go with such an extreme argument, it's mental. I say there should be some sort of regulation on the internet, like there already is, whats the big deal. seriously. go wear your tin foil hat eh
    :D
     
  20. crinkleshoes

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    They can call themselves whatever they want, doesn't make it a communist state and I guarantee you cannot point out a single communist state to me because none has existed.

    They are a fascist dictatorship.

    I suggest you read a book or two... heck even wikipedia would tell you the meaning of communism while citing its sources for your appraisal.
     
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