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thinking of trying ryzen for a change

Griff7520 said:
heres an update, finaly pulled the trigger and bought the 9850x3d with a x870 aorus elite x3d ice motherboard. It has ddr5 8000 running fine. now being new to amd I have to ask if I am doing something wrong here as this cpu does not beat my 270k with the same gpu in any gaming benchmark. Any ideas as to what is the issue. tia
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Depends on the GPU? Why did you upgrade? what resolution?

The thing is the 270K is not a slow CPU, its all about the CPU bottleneck, if your existing CPU is not bottlenecking the GPU then a faster CPU will make zero difference, yes the 9850X3D is much faster in gaming but what it is not is magic silicon that can make your games run faster regardless of what your GPU has to say about that, if your CPU is not the limiting factor then your GPU is.

So the questions in the first line are genuine, as for what to do with an AMD CPU...... the same thing you do with an Intel CPU, you install it and use it, that's it.
 
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at this stage its not an upgrade. GPU is a 5070ti at 1440p, rdr2 for example I easily got around 180 fps but with this amd cpu I am struggling to get 110/120 hence asking if there is some sort of bios settings I need to use to get this superior cpu performing as all the reviews I have seen say its the fastest cpu around, as of release earlier this year that is. As for why did I upgrade if you look at my sig you see I have 2 pc's, both were on Intel core ultras, just wanted to see what all the hype was about with these x3d processors.
 
Also make sure your Microsoft store apps are up to date especially ones around Xbox / game services.
 
What settings are you running the gaming benchmarks at? Chances are the CPU may not be the bottleneck, especially on higher resulolutions and settings.
 
after watching loads of videos on youtube I saw how to undervolt and overclock the cpu by enabeling pbo and tweaking curve optimizer etc etc and pc is running great at the min, Hell let loose is giving me 180 to 200 plus fps which is a bit better than the 270k so I think I am getting my head round these ryzen chips
 
Griff7520 said:
after watching loads of videos on youtube I saw how to undervolt and overclock the cpu by enabeling pbo and tweaking curve optimizer etc etc and pc is running great at the min, Hell let loose is giving me 180 to 200 plus fps which is a bit better than the 270k so I think I am getting my head round these ryzen chips
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If that helped then your thermals are likely the problem. Cooler might not be properly mounted, or not enough airflow through the case.
 
Wildlife is basically benchmarking which CPU can shovel lightweight frames at the GPU the fastest and is not leveraging the 3D v-cache at all. Games have a lot more going on.
I'd run an in-game benchmark at settings that a 5070Ti can easily handle to see what difference the AMD chip is making.
 
I'd nuke the windows and reinstall from scratch, including chipset drivers for x870 and latest BIOS for mobo.

The RAM might be an issue? 8000 must have fairly grim timings? I'd have went for the 6000 speed DDR5, set EXPO and saved it.

Also check the EXPO settings are on in BIOS and not default ram speed.
 
iamgigglz said:
Wildlife is basically benchmarking which CPU can shovel lightweight frames at the GPU the fastest and is not leveraging the 3D v-cache at all. Games have a lot more going on.
I'd run an in-game benchmark at settings that a 5070Ti can easily handle to see what difference the AMD chip is making.
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the point I was making is the 18000 difference in score
 
here is a few answers from the above posts

Yes it is a fresh install of windows
yes latest bios is installed
yes all latest drivers are installed and w11 is latest as well
yes expo is set in bios
temps during gaming is around 60c which is not bad seeing the temps out side ate the moment
GPU temps are around 60c as well.
Ram is running at 8000mts with these timings


does this info show anything I am missing
 
You already had good advice. Command rate. T1 Memory. Memory a 6200/6400 tightest timings with a 1-1 ratio.

Even with those non optimal settings a 9850X3D should easily beat an Intel 290 and curb stomp a 270, so I think your issue could be elsewhere.
 
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