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This Chinese coronavirus, could it be a threat?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Malevolence, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. Amalcarb

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    The people themselves will make the call on how to react to this virus. If neighbours ‘Fred and Doris’ down the road both of whom are over 70 both survive with little or no fuss things will be calmer on your street. Likewise if handcarts suddenly appear with the words “ bring out the dead” being shouted...err.

    Point I’m making here is few make a big deal of seasonal flu. Hype it up due to lack of information and it could bite many on the arse unnecessarily.
     
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  2. RxR

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    In the subtropics, in my experience, it takes a fair bit for anything other than the heat and humidity of weather to get much of an interday stress grip.

    e: Ie. The weather is a much more frequent and persistent foe. I found the same attitude (and reality) when it was -4 to -16°C when I lived elsewhere.
     
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  3. RoboCod

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    And we're back to comparing to flu.

    Interesting you joined up today and your first posts are this thread.
     
  4. dowie

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    Lol indeed... since when did regular seasonal flu shut down a city and cause hospitals to be overrun - temporary facilities to be needed inc newly built hospitals just to deal with the outbreak and beds in sports halls etc...etc...
     
  5. RxR

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    Fwiw, I'm relying on the local biomed lab teams (now 25 working in concert on different parts of the vaccine research around the clock) that gave a firm commitment they will have a vaccine (presumably at least for Australians) within 12-16 weeks.

    They've got nowhere to run or hide in a population of only 25 million, and big boots to fill.

    e: plus due to the fact we have millions of Chinese tourists a year.
     
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  6. TonTom

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    Tough
     
  7. pinkpound

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    This
     
  8. Rroff

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    I get the feeling though could be completely wrong that is more from the substance of disclosure behind the scenes than necessarily a reaction to the actual disease and its severity or otherwise which makes me suspicious this wasn't a natural outbreak even if there isn't some sinister conspiracy involved heh.
     
  9. Amalcarb

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    Can only hold my hands hands up. I joined to gleam info on this very subject my friend. Reason being little is known about it but already though reading some very interesting post I realise more is already going on than what we know.
     
  10. TonTom

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    Best of all are the work colleagues that moan about others coming into work when they’re ill yet themselves come in when sick as well. Gotta love a hypocrite.
     
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  11. Steampunk

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    It's certainly making the (currently terrible) hospital A+E waiting times better. My wife said she's never seen A+E so empty.
     
  12. dowie

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    That sounds like a conspiracy theory either way tbh...
     
  13. wolfie138

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    so you joined a random thread on a computer parts site forum? there wasn't any other more reputable/relevant sites?
     
  14. RxR

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    A bit of related trivia, I just read that about 75% of infectious diseases transmissions are animal to human transfer. From a gov.au Health Security organisation:

    https://indopacifichealthsecurity.d...artnership-strengthen-animal-and-human-health

    Also, Bill Gates has donated a further usd$100m to fight the virus.

    https://www.gatesfoundation.org/Med...nal-Funding-to-the-Novel-Coronavirus-Response

    Fwiw - his orgs prior funding contribution to the rapid vaccine development network is the funding that went to 3 labs (around the world) specifically designed for rapid vaccine development. The Australian effort is running on that funding. They were chosen as 1 of the three specialist teams (prior to this CV outbreak) due to having developed some sort of unique "molecular clamp" method. Never heard of it personally, till two weeks ago.

    It is based on that clamp method they have committed to a vaccine in 12-16 weeks. The motivation of the rapid dev network doesnt seem commercially driven. Tho somebody's gotta get paid somewhere for something.
     
  15. RoboCod

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    Bill Gates is brilliant isn't he.
     
  16. Rossi~

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  17. Angilion

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    The worst plague in modern history was flu. The estimated death toll varies between 50 million and 100 million because so many people died in such a short period of time that record-keeping broke down. ~25% of the world population infected, ~4.5% dead. That would be ~1.9 billion infected and ~350 million dead with today's population. Although given the much higher population density and travel it would probably be worse. Modern medicine is far better, but a pandemic of a highly contagious disease would overwhelm it and thus make it relatively ineffective. In terms of fatality rate and contagiousness, this virus is more like that strain of flu than the usual annual flu outbreaks.

    It wouldn't be handcarts and "bring out your dead". It would be lorries and heavy construction vehicles and mass grave pits. Which is why China is going to extraordinary lengths trying to contain it (shutting down a city, for example). If it isn't contained, it will be a global problem and it won't be containable.
     
  18. XeNoN89

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    Good bot
     
  19. RxR

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    Helpful, might be the word. The dev network he contributed to earlier is CEPI, an international non-profit: Center for Epidemic Preparedness Innovation. Their focus is to be prepped for this kinda virus thing.

    https://cepi.net/about/whoweare/
     
  20. RxR

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