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This Chinese coronavirus, could it be a threat?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Malevolence, Jan 19, 2020.

  1. Diddums

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    For those of us who don't speak everylanguage,

    The first is a scene from Shanghai subway.


    The second is people chanting "cheer up" to others locked in due to the curfew to let them know they're not alone.
     
  2. Minusorange

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    Is it here ?

     
  3. Rroff

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    Who knows but this does happen not infrequently - had a couple of incidents involving unknown substances and a hazmat response reported in the local news this year already.

    LOL was listening to Spotify which was playing recommended songs rather than from my playlists while posting and as I clicked post it decided to play "They Came Wearing Masks - Peter Gundry" hah.
     
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  4. dowie

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    Quite possibly, though the previous suspected cases turned out to be false alarms.

    IF it carry on spreading at the reported rate then it seems inevitable that it will get here... but then again that sort of information isn't reliable. The (current) reaction from the Chinese and their claim that it transfers from person to person, coupled with the period of days without symptoms is potentially very worrying.

    Also the conservative/complacent reaction of governments, WHO etc.. lack of will to be more proactive when it comes to potential fat tail events like this is just dumb. People just don't understand risk, despite often having various letters after their names they're still dumb/ignorant... lazy thinking/complacent attitudes towards risk, reliance on flawed models etc.. allowed the financial crisis to happen - it can just as easily allow a catastrophic outbreak to occur too. Hopefully it won't be one this time but it's not too reassuring, the consequences of something like this going wrong are potentially huge but we seem to be complacent because we've contained others and have been OK etc..
     
  5. thenewoc

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    Think we may have got lucky if none of those returning have turned out to be carrying. We ought to have been quarantining all those inbound from Asia since a temperature check isn't going to be fail safe for this.
     
  6. helpimcrap

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    Agreed.
     
  7. thenewoc

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  8. Gypo

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  9. labbby

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    Germany just got their first one..

    Anyone else feel like the U.K. media have gone from over reporting a few days ago to not much at all now?
     
  10. labbby

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    is that a U.K. hospital Gypo ?
     
  11. thenewoc

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    This one makes some good observations too, like how over crowded those hospital scenes were for the number of cases China have been reporting...

     
  12. ScoTTyBEEE

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  14. Gypo

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    I would imagine so, having difficulty verifying at the moment though.
     
  15. Gypo

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  16. Puzzled

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    Even if it is that doesn't mean its coronavirus. Hospitals have quarantine procedures for many things.

    We are bound to get some cases but I wouldn't believe everything you see on Twitter.
     
  17. dowie

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    https://promedmail.org/promed-post/?id=20200126.6918012

    They don't really know the distribution yet - obvs it's likely fat tailed, we know there has been one individual who spread it to 14 people.

    It would surely be prudent to stop flights to and from China, currently so many unknowns...
     
  18. StriderX

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    Prudent maybe, but almost certainly too late. It would have been far more prudent to stop flights as soon as it was confirmed.
     
  19. Emlyn_Dewar

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    Pretty decent sized jump in numbers today.
    4535 confirmed
    6973 possible
    106 dead
    60 recovered

    Can see that carrying on for a few more days, and the media will get back on the panic train.
    Feels like they will have to extend the holiday period again.
     
  20. Rroff

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    Nearly a quarter of confirmed (recovering) cases needed intensive care which is a bit concerning as if numbers ramp up ability to deliver intensive care will drop dramatically and deaths (and probably infections) will go up a lot. Current projections put it at around 4 million dead by July if it isn't contained but that isn't taking into account a lot of factors and/or how accurate current snapshots are of the situation.