Thanks, I remember reading that. There ws another equally in-depth article later by someone else which followed on with the development of the 5000 series, and how it continued from the lessons learned there.
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Thoughts on early backlash against new AMD cards?
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Thanks, I remember reading that. There ws another equally in-depth article later by someone else which followed on with the development of the 5000 series, and how it continued from the lessons learned there.
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Intel don't need a discrete GPU, Intel HD 4000 is a much bigger threat to AMD atm.. apparently gaming is possible in decent settings at 720P on 3770K's built in graphics (Intel HD 4000). Intels next chip may well be 1080P capable, this would remove the need for a discrete GPU for most average PC users and be a problem for Nvidia and AMD as Intel CPU's will continue to ship with some sort of graphics chip in almost all CPU's they sell...
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Agree. Like I said before AMD and NVIDIA are like a duopoly<=cartel in the graphics card business. Just remembered both their chips come out of TSMC so they've got a good idea on each others production costs which is convenient.
Intel getting into the graphics business would be very difficult as they'd have to get around loads of patents held by the above two which would mean they'd most likely be better off buying one of them like AMD bought ATI.
Similarly NVIDIA getting into the x86 CPU game. No chance so change the game and try ARM.
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I wasn't saying intel were BTW I was merely suggesting someone capable of building a GPU
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Intel already are in the graphics business, Intel's CPU/GPU chips have all but killed off the low end discrete graphics card market. How long until Intel can take on the midrange GPU's with there CPU/GPU combos... My guess is over the next couple of years..
Intel HD 4000 is a big step forward in graphics for Intel, and it's included on every Ivybridge chip they sell. That's a huge chunk of the graphics market right there.. HD 5000 will probably be good enough for 1080P gaming and then HD 6000 and so on...
Fusion of CPU/GPU is the way forward, Intel don't need discrete GPU's imho..
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The 7850 £179.99 can rival GTX 580 when overclocked, the 7870 £249.99 can rival the HD 7950. The prices are decent enough tbh.
I must admit I've not done any gaming on an Intel GPU powered system but from what I've heard they have a long way to go, although I think Intel license their graphics tech from PowerVR so it might not be just down to them. How does it compare to the consoles of today Xbox, PS3 etc, and what about the next gen consoles which will get the developers pushing our discrete GPU's again?
I agree CPU/GPU is the way forward but I think it's the GPU section that's going to ramp up as computing in general is looking at getting more GPU intensive.
If NVIDIA>AMD keep up with the partial funding of games for their discrete cards the CPU/GPU combo will always be catching up.
The whole point of new generation cards is that they deliver last gens high end performance for this gens mid level price point, i.e, a 7870 should deliver 6970 performance for the old 6870 price.
This isn't happening this time round...
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Judging by the price drops that were posted and then quickly back tracked, that is roughly where prices are heading now that the launch day / month / quarter mania is dying down
Yeah I def think they are slightly over priced. There is clearly wiggle room with them and prices did drop a bit then spike back up, surely it's the usual early adopter price stuff that we see all the time, maybe not as extreme at the 680 or 7970 but a similar phenomenon?
The big gains seem to be in terms of power draw, temps, efficiency, etc rather than a leap forward at the price point. It's an interesting situation if they were just that little bit cheaper then I think they would be much better propositions, I guess time and some basic economics will mean they will find their equilibrium over the coming weeks/months.
The big gains seem to be in terms of power draw, temps, efficiency, etc rather than a leap forward at the price point. It's an interesting situation if they were just that little bit cheaper then I think they would be much better propositions, I guess time and some basic economics will mean they will find their equilibrium over the coming weeks/months.