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Tute said:
I'd only ever buy with BT on Ebay, i'd never risk PP.
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That makes no sense.

A BT is final no refund, zip.

PP 95% of the time sides with the buyer.

PP all the way if you are a buyer. It makes no sense at all to do anything else.
 
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Thats exactly what I was thinking. Obviously, if you are the seller, then bank transfer would be better as there is less chance that you will be required to refund the buyer in the event of a dispute.

With paypal, once the buyer has won a dispute, the refund is virtually automatic...which is not the case with bank transfer.
 
lee32uk said:
I always use Royal Mail standard parcel delivery for expensive items. It means I can charge less on postage for the item (Better for the buyer), and you can also insure the parcel up to £500. I have never had any problems this way.
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This is what I do.
 
For the 'I always use Recorded for the extra 72p' brigade you may want to take the extra 3p with you as it's been 75p for ages.

I have to say for what you charged for P&P i'm not sure how you thought you were going to get it to him, that said the buyer could be totally genuine and assuming the buyer is ripping you off based on the known details is as likely from his perspective as you not sending it, that's certainly what i'd think if you couldn't provide a tracking number over an extended period of time.

So have a little faith and wait and see.
 
AcidHell2 said:
That makes no sense.

A BT is final no refund, zip.

PP 95% of the time sides with the buyer.

PP all the way if you are a buyer. It makes no sense at all to do anything else.
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And you've just proven why PP is a load of crap.

What's the point of being a seller and using PP?
 
Tute said:
I'd only ever buy with BT on Ebay, i'd never risk PP.
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Er... but with BT you wouldn't get the money back, once it's gone it's gone. However as a buyer PayPal would give you the money back. So your post doesn't really make any sense.

As a seller it's a different story... but as a buyer it's the safest way there is for Ebay.
 
You may already take steps to protect yourself when selling on eBay, but PayPal Seller Protection can provide an extra safety net to cover you against potential losses due to buyer claims, chargebacks or reversals.

PayPal Seller Protection can help you hold onto your money

There's no annual payout limit for PayPal Seller Protection and you can post to buyer addresses in any of the 190 countries where PayPal is accepted.

Remember that PayPal Seller Protection is independent of Buyer Protection, which means we're on your side too. Just take the steps below when you're selling, so you know you're covered.

Key rules of Seller Protection

1. Check transaction details

First you need to make sure the item is 'Eligible' for Seller Protection by checking your 'Transaction Details'. Log in to PayPal, go to your Account History and click on the 'Details' link next to the transaction.

2. Retain online tracking

Retain online trackable proof of delivery, such as Royal Mail's Recorded Delivery. If you hand deliver an item or post it in any other way that cannot be tracked online, your transaction will not qualify for Seller Protection.

3. Post to buyer's address

Post to the buyer's address provided in the 'Details' link in your account history.

4. Provide proof of signature

For transactions with a value of £150 or more, you need to provide proof of signature from the recipient if the buyer claims that the item did not arrive.

5. Post within seven days

Post the item within seven days of receiving payment.

6. Accept payments from a single PayPal account

Only accept payments in full from a single PayPal account.

7. Respond within deadlines

During a dispute process, please respond to all PayPal enquiries within the given deadlines, as disputes need to be resolved within a specific time frame.
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Follow the above and you are unlikely to get screwed over as a seller using Paypal. I always insist that buyers have a confirmed address on Paypal, as this is part of the eligibility criteria.
 
AcidHell2 said:
You said buy

and PP is not to bad if you follow ebays and PP seller protection rules. But hardly anyone does.
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Mainly because it makes no difference if you do follow the rules.

Richdog said:
Er... but with BT you wouldn't get the money back, once it's gone it's gone. However as a buyer PayPal would give you the money back. So your post doesn't really make any sense.

As a seller it's a different story... but as a buyer it's the safest way there is for Ebay.
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So you're saying that PP is alright because it works half the time?

Wonderful.

It's not even 100% as a buyer, I don't touch PP for various reasons but i've watched firsthand as friends and family have been left out of pocket both as buyers and sellers, despite following PP's rules to the letter.
 
Tute said:
Mainly because it makes no difference if you do follow the rules.



So you're saying that PP is alright because it works half the time?

Wonderful.
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For buying on EBay it's the safest way... much safer than paying BT. BT = no chance of money back. PP = good chance of getting your money back. I'm not quite sure what your point is here.
 
Yes it does... certainly much better than "zero chance". Of course it's not perfect, but some protection is better than none.
 
Tute said:
PP does not give you a good chance of getting your money back.
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What do you not get

BT = easily scammed, you can not get your money back.

PP = Can and usually do get your money back. As a buyer it is eh bes way.

Even as a seller you are protected if you follow he rules, most people do not.
Your reasoning is severely lacking.
BT offers no protection at all for buying, PP does.
 
No, it doesn't. You may as well give it to a random person to act as a "man in the middle" as it offers the same protection - none.
 
Hehehe. I can see that Tute has a deep hatred for Paypal.

The fact remains that for buyers, Paypal is the best/safest option. For sellers, perhaps cheque or bank transfer is better.
 
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