Turkish protests

dowie · 2 Jun 2013 at 11:37

Stolly said:
Hey, here's an idea. How about we stop sticking our noses into the internal problems of other countries, at least until we stop causing at least some of them.

Yeah screw it... who cares about other human beings we should respect the legal notion of a Sovereign state and just turn a blind eye when the government of another state abuses/kills its citizens... Yay... lets go for the Russia/China foreign policy approach.

Lysander · 2 Jun 2013 at 11:46

Iraklis F.C. said:
Poor lad, i hope hes alright. I thought that Erdogan is getting elected thanks to votes from the conservative islamists? No wonder the protests are erupting in Constantinople and the west generally.

Yes, but bolstered by bribery.

The government are initiating an Internet blackout today in order to stem the flow of information to the rest of the world.

Here's a disturbing video of citizens attacking one another with police approval.

And more police brutality.

The Running Man · 2 Jun 2013 at 11:51

Quick, lets invade Turkey!

At what point do we start arming these rebels?

dowie · 2 Jun 2013 at 11:54

Lysander said:
Here's a disturbing video of citizens attacking one another with police approval.

Would assume that guy in the white shirt is more likely to be a plain clothes cop

Iraklis F.C. · 2 Jun 2013 at 12:07

dowie said:
Would assume that guy in the white shirt is more likely to be a plain clothes cop

not necessarily, the praetorians are the same everywhere it seems...very sad videos.

Dist · 2 Jun 2013 at 12:11

I lost all interest in this when some of the protesters started spreading lies about what's actually happening. There is one big post going around tumblr and other sites supposedly showing pictures of what's happening and people who have died... except that some of the pictures are months/years old, and have nothing to do with it.

If there was some good truthful information perhaps I would actually try and look into the situation more, but as it stands it's just silly.

Nate75 · 2 Jun 2013 at 12:12

I blame the end of the football season!

deuse · 2 Jun 2013 at 12:14

Lysander said:
The 'democratic process' over in Turkey is far more corrupt than in the West. The vote was gained by bribery and by going to the poorer areas of the country, giving the slums coal and food and getting them to vote for them in return. They're even paying the poorer members of society to side with the police during these protests. Yes Tayyip was 'elected' 'democratically' but the slow strangulation of peoples' personal rights, freedom of speech and freedom of expression has snowballed throughout his government and this was the final straw.

Also I have no idea on what planet injuring and killing your own citizens is a valid method of policing. Here's more of your valid method.

Lysander said:
Yes, but bolstered by bribery.

The government are initiating an Internet blackout today in order to stem the flow of information to the rest of the world.

Here's a disturbing video of citizens attacking one another with police approval.

And more police brutality.

I hope the guy is ok. Shocking videos I just don't understand the Turkish government are they a backward lot?

Nate75 · 2 Jun 2013 at 12:20

deuse said:
I hope the guy is ok. Shocking videos I just don't understand the Turkish government are they a backward lot?

looked quite reasonable tbh.

MickeyFinns · 2 Jun 2013 at 12:34

Looks like it's calming down, I hope it stays that way as I'm in Istanbul on Saturday. Was not expecting Istanbul to be most concerning part of a trip to Iraq

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Lysander · 2 Jun 2013 at 13:02

Dist said:
I lost all interest in this when some of the protesters started spreading lies about what's actually happening. There is one big post going around tumblr and other sites supposedly showing pictures of what's happening and people who have died... except that some of the pictures are months/years old, and have nothing to do with it.

If there was some good truthful information perhaps I would actually try and look into the situation more, but as it stands it's just silly.

This tends to happen with a lot of current events. People start posting and reposting wrong information. That's the internet for you. It doesn't change the fact that things are very bad over there right now. Stick to reliable sources if you are unsure.

MickeyFinns said:
Looks like it's calming down, I hope it stays that way as I'm in Istanbul on Saturday. Was not expecting Istanbul to be most concerning part of a trip to Iraq .

Not really calming down. This is in Ankara today.

I'll be in Istanbul next month. Which part are you going to?

Nate75 · 2 Jun 2013 at 13:09

Lysander said:
This tends to happen with a lot of current events. People start posting and reposting wrong information. That's the internet for you. It doesn't change the fact that things are very bad over there right now. Stick to reliable sources if you are unsure.

But how can you say that when you said the Boston marathon bombings were a, staged, false flag event?

Derek W · 2 Jun 2013 at 13:17

Lysander said:
This tends to happen with a lot of current events. People start posting and reposting wrong information. That's the internet for you. Stick to reliable sources if you are unsure.

Nate75 said:
But how can you say that when you said the Boston marathon bombings were a, staged, false flag event?

Best use a reliable source

MickeyFinns · 2 Jun 2013 at 13:23

Lysander said:
This tends to happen with a lot of current events. People start posting and reposting wrong information. That's the internet for you. It doesn't change the fact that things are very bad over there right now. Stick to reliable sources if you are unsure.

Not really calming down. This is in Ankara today.

I'll be in Istanbul next month. Which part are you going to?

Only there for one day so going to see Hagia Sofia, Blue Mosque, Basilica Sistern and checkout the Grand Bazaar. Read somewhere that Istanbul was in clean up but Al Jazeera are reporting people going back to Taksim square now...

Lysander · 2 Jun 2013 at 13:24

MickeyFinns said:
Only there for one day so going to see Hagia Sofia, Blue Mosque, Basilica Sistern and checkout the Grand Bazaar. Read somewhere that Istanbul was in clean up but Al Jazeera are reporting people going back to Taksim square now...

Yeah it was planned that they would go back for 2pm their time.

Dist · 2 Jun 2013 at 15:34

Lysander said:
Not really calming down. This is in Ankara today

Looking at that it seems the protesters deserve whatever they get coming to them.

Jokester · 2 Jun 2013 at 15:36

Dist said:
Looking at that it seems the protesters deserve whatever they get coming to them.

Doesn't so much look like protests now, just yoofs rioting.

Amp34 · 2 Jun 2013 at 16:18

Lysander said:
The 'democratic process' over in Turkey is far more corrupt than in the West. The vote was gained by bribery and by going to the poorer areas of the country, giving the slums coal and food and getting them to vote for them in return. They're even paying the poorer members of society to side with the police during these protests. Yes Tayyip was 'elected' 'democratically' but the slow strangulation of peoples' personal rights, freedom of speech and freedom of expression has snowballed throughout his government and this was the final straw.

Also I have no idea on what planet injuring and killing your own citizens is a valid method of policing. Here's more of your valid method.

Kinda sounds like the last Labour government here....

Lysander · 2 Jun 2013 at 17:43

Amp34 said:
Kinda sounds like the last Labour government here....

It did make me think of that, to be honest.

trigger-happy · 2 Jun 2013 at 17:48

Here you go guys 284 images and rising of Occupy Turkey. The media won't show these images to the public but here is what's happening.

http://imgur.com/a/wOrZR#0

Turkish protests

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