Ubuntu 9.10 available now!

The Mad Rapper · 29 Oct 2009 at 15:48

Go!

I am downloading both the 32 and 64 bit versions, getting 400 kb/s from a UK mirror.

Can anyone tell me if the same memory limitations apply to 32 bit Linux as 32 bit Windows?

i.e. If I have > 4 GB RAM do I need to use 64 bit linux?

I have only every used 32 Bit Linux on my laptop at home, so it's never been an issue. Now, I am going to install 9.10 on my desktop now as well (AMD Phenom II X4 Quad Core 955 Black Edition, 4 GB RAM, ATI 4870), but am confused as to which version I need.

TIA and sorry for the (potentially) stupid question

PhilGQ · 29 Oct 2009 at 16:52

Yes you need the 64bit version if you want address more than 4GB of RAM.
Although you will probably not notice any difference.

Since its a clean install you might as well go 64bit.

The Mad Rapper · 29 Oct 2009 at 16:53

Having done some research, which, with hindsight, I should have carried out before my post, I have discovered that 32 bit Linux can address up to 64 GB RAM.

So that's nice then!

The info is here if you're interested.

The Mad Rapper · 29 Oct 2009 at 16:53

PhilGQ said:
Yes you need the 64bit version if you want address more than 4GB of RAM.
Although you will probably not notice any difference.

Since its a clean install you might as well go 64bit.

This is wrong - see my post above.

PhilGQ · 29 Oct 2009 at 17:10

Not that I really understand what any of that says but it sounds like a bit of a fudge, but if it works the same then who cares.

The 64GB limit won't last forever mind, I remember when someone said 128MB would be more than you would ever need. Before that someone said 640K of conventional memory was all you would need and if that runs out you can use mem-maker to clear some.

I would go 64bit if I were you.

Edit: Thats a stupid reason to go 64Bit you have got at least a couple of years left.

Elevon · 29 Oct 2009 at 17:57

I'm downloading Kubuntu 9.10(prefer the layout/looks to Ubuntu) .

Hairybudda · 29 Oct 2009 at 18:22

The Mad Rapper said:
Having done some research, which, with hindsight, I should have carried out before my post, I have discovered that 32 bit Linux can address up to 64 GB RAM.

So that's nice then!

The info is here if you're interested.

Anything that circumvents the 4gb limitation on a 32bit system is a bottleneck hackjob, not worth it at all

Roland0 · 29 Oct 2009 at 18:58

Has anybody been getting any problems with it?

Elevon · 29 Oct 2009 at 20:54

Stoned_SpaZZZ said:
Has anybody been getting any problems with it?

I updated mine to Kubuntu 9.10 version,no issues all running great

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deadite66 · 29 Oct 2009 at 21:17

fresh install, upgraded from hardy mostly working ok
cron mails were being sent to nobody had to adjust /etc/aliases to fix it.
can't encode to mp3 in vlc, same version as ppa so no help there yet.

Radiation · 29 Oct 2009 at 21:24

I've always just used 32bit ubuntu as i have two pc's and a netbook i use it on, now im considering using the 64bit version on the two pc's but i take it that would mean i also need either the 32bit or remix version for the netbook?

Is there much if any performance gain using 64bit as i don't really want to download two iso's?

The Mad Rapper · 30 Oct 2009 at 12:41

Hairybudda said:
Anything that circumvents the 4gb limitation on a 32bit system is a bottleneck hackjob, not worth it at all

But which 64 bit version do you use then? I am confused by the options, especially as the only 64 bit d/l seemed to be for AMD chips, what do you use for Intel chips?

Radiation · 30 Oct 2009 at 12:52

Im pretty sure that is the only 64bit version and works with amd and intel cpu's.

I went ahead and got both the 64bit and netbook remix version of ubuntu and have already installed the pc's, looks good but i prefer the New Wave theme with the customized dark menu's, also the space wallpapers are nice, next must backup and try out the netbook version, i read it should improve graphics performance and no more video tearing!

The Mad Rapper · 30 Oct 2009 at 12:59

Radiation said:
Im pretty sure that is the only 64bit version and works with amd and intel cpu's.

I went ahead and got both the 64bit and netbook remix version of ubuntu and have already installed the pc's, looks good but i prefer the New Wave theme with the customized dark menu's, also the space wallpapers are nice, next must backup and try out the netbook version, i read it should improve graphics performance and no more video tearing!

Aah - OK

I tried the 32 bit version on my desktop last night, I chose to use the propriety AMD driver for my 4870. No problems really, except that any apps I add to the top panel don't appear until a reboot, although the app can be started by clicking on that 'invisible' part of the bar. Strange!

The new themes are nice, but I like the blue 'Mist' theme the most

I'd like to see Ubuntu include far more themes by default. I'm not sure why, but there's really little difference between them all, not like Windows themes which can look vastly different.

dirtydog · 30 Oct 2009 at 13:32

Is this any good then? Does everything work out of the box, eg. nvidia driver, will my monitor run at its full refresh rate and so on, without needing to mess about?

If you have the 3D desktop effects enabled, does smooth scrolling work in Firefox yet? Last time I tried Ubuntu you could have either/or, but not both.

Radiation · 30 Oct 2009 at 13:51

Yeah it's been this way for sometime, the nvidia drivers are just a few clicks away after install, not sure about smooth scroll but i would imagine it's fixed by now.

dirtydog · 30 Oct 2009 at 13:54

Last time I used Ubuntu (maybe a year ago) I still had to hack the xorg.conf file to get above 60Hz IIRC.

Radiation · 30 Oct 2009 at 13:58

You should be able to change it under the nvidia control panel, though i can't be sure as my lcd monitor like most only runs at 60hz.

dirtydog · 30 Oct 2009 at 14:03

My LCD runs at 120Hz. The way it used to work, if xorg.conf didn't include the exact vert and horiz frequencies then refresh rates above 60Hz would not be available to select in the GUI.

(Even my previous 19" LCD ran at 75Hz at 1280x1024)

WiPPaH · 30 Oct 2009 at 14:12

The Mad Rapper said:
Aah - OK

I tried the 32 bit version on my desktop last night, I chose to use the propriety AMD driver for my 4870. No problems really, except that any apps I add to the top panel don't appear until a reboot, although the app can be started by clicking on that 'invisible' part of the bar. Strange!.

I would recommend using the Linux cats instead, never had that much luck with the propriety option.