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UK Government Performance 2019-2024

Discussion in 'Speaker's Corner' started by Dirk Diggler, 13 Dec 2019.

  1. Greebo

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    A mere drop in the ocean. You think tax and NI increases are going to cover the cost of care in the future? Especially when we will have super high paid carers on £30 per hour in the new high wage GB.
     
  2. Freakbro

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    That and the bulk of the NI rise is going to the NHS and not social care
     
  3. Greebo

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    And after 2 years we still haven't heard BJ's plan to solve the care problem. The extra money, when it does eventually go to care is just a sticky plaster, a fraction of what is needed.
     
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  4. Dj_Jestar

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    My house went up a similar amount under Boris. But under Cameron it managed double that. Boris caused a loss.

    (I'm 90% certain you're just joking though :))
     
  5. MadMossy

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    Your house may have gone up, but then so have all your bills.

    Council Tax has increased by nearly 5% a year for the past decade with a further 5% projected for the next 3 years. When I moved into my flat, my council tax was ~£60 a month, its now closer to £95 along with every other bill increasing substantially, broadband for example, £27/month to £44/month.
     
  6. Dj_Jestar

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    I'm deliberately being facetious, as I suspect Tefal is, too. "The Tory base voters usually only care about their house price" is a very common trope.
     
  7. do_ron_ron

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    In typical BoZo fashion though he has "got care done" just like Brexit. Despite Brexit problems rumbling on especially over NI, in his mind he has finished it.
     
  8. a1ex2001

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    He's like a small child hiding behind his hands and believing you can't see them or an ostritch with it's head in the sand. He may as he said have got Brexit done but thats a bit like saying you've locked the front door and being surprised when the crooks stroll in the back door that you left open.
     
  9. Minusorange

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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-58846999

    This is going to be a tough one for Boris considering it was only days ago he was falsely heralding capitalism as being responsible for the Oxford AZ vaccine, wouldn't the government stepping in be anti captilism ? I guess he'll step in when it's his friends/donors who are taking a hit on their wealth balances and praise his form of socialism as some great mechanic to boost capitalism in his warped view of truths and inconvenient truths

    Why don't they just pay the gas price and add it to the cost of production, nobody seems to care about the inflation rises we're seeing so what's some more increase, afterall wages are rising so we're all rich ?
     
  10. NickK

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    I see the Butcher of Britain has enlisted the exCEO of Tesco to sort out the supply chain issue. Nothing like Boris promoting someone to stab them in the back publicly at a later date.
     
  11. Jono8

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    Yeh I don't doubt it can be a lot of work. I think they should be paid a reasonable wage. They definitely shouldn't be paid as much as a doctor though.
     
  12. Greebo

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    we’ve already got our cement price and aggregate increase - 10% aggregate and 20% cement. Warning of more to come later. Building materials costs are going to skyrocket once we pass on the 10% plus increases.
     
  13. Dj_Jestar

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    Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson is going to be responsible/remembered for finishing off the industrial remnants of the UK at this rate. Maybe he'll fancy himself as Thatcher 2.0.
     
  14. Minusorange

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    It's all part of Boris "build back better" strategy, if it costs more for the materials then they must be really good so we'll build back even better even if it cripples the economy and makes inflation skyrocket to levels never previously seen
     
  15. b0rn2sk8

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    Think about it… its a global market place and a common commodity that can be imported for less if prices get out of step with imports. Where a U.K. business can’t compete in a global marketplace they go bust which harms our economy. Money flows out because we import rather than invest in our own people.
     
  16. Minusorange

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    I agree but that's capitalism, something Boris is championing more & more in order to get out of addressing all these issues that capitalism is causing, it's why I said these types of situations must be really really difficult for him as he will have to turn to socialism if he's going to save these businesses but will most likely let them fall unless it's an important donor or friend (I guess they're both one & the same in Boris world) that's going to lose something from it
     
  17. b0rn2sk8

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    The problem is that huge chunks, if not all of British steal industry has been on deaths door for decades and has really struggled in the global market.

    Didn’t some plants get public money just a few years ago to stay afloat?
     
  18. garnett

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    Don't get me wrong. I've no doubt a massive chunk of the UK populace underestimate the complexities of the role of MPs just like they underestimate the complexities of everything else, but it always seems harsh to limit wages to the extent that you exclude everyone from the job bar the most incompetent or those most willing and able to use the job to secure additional bung income.
     
  19. joey1211

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    Sums up the current lot to a t so I don't see what difference it would make.
     
  20. a1ex2001

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    So what you are saying is you want people who are less capable than doctors to be running the country, making decisions that impact the lives of everyone in the country including said doctors? You have to pay decent money to get decent people otherwise they simply won’t do it as they need to earn a living like the rest of us, unless of course you want a government even more rammed full of the independently wealthy aristocracy!